Mailman 3 why can't people see my lists? - Mailman-Users

why can't people see my lists?

Joshua S. Freeman

31 Oct 2001 31 Oct '01

10:31 a.m.

http://www.mysql.org/mailman/listinfo/

I have four lists running and. for each of them, in the Privacy Options page I have "Advertise this list when people ask what lists are on the machine?" set to "Yes". Isn't that where I set this feature?

TIA,

(p.s.- i've shutdown and restarted, refreshed, etc.. my browser repeatedly but still no lists are showing up.)

thanks again...

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Jon Carnes

31 Oct 31 Oct

12:21 p.m.

On Wednesday 31 October 2001 11:31, Joshua S. Freeman wrote:

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http://www.mysql.org/mailman/listinfo/

I have four lists running and. for each of them, in the Privacy Options page I have "Advertise this list when people ask what lists are on the machine?" set to "Yes". Isn't that where I set this feature?

TIA,

J.

Compiled into ~mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo is the home directory of Mailman, and the assumtion that the lists will be found off the home directory in "lists/".
If you have moved the home directory for Mailman or the list directory - or your webserver cannot read the list/ directory, then you will get that message.

Personally I would start by looking at the rights of the directories.

You can also use the strings command to look inside the listinfo cgi to see what it is looking for.

Jon Carnes

Chad M. Stewart

1 Nov 1 Nov

7:13 a.m.

New subject: created private, then changed to public, lists not being advertised

I built mailman using the following

./configure --prefix=/home/mailman
--with-var-prefix=/home/www/sites/lists.balius.com/docs/
--with-mail-gid=yy
--with-cgi-gid=xxx

I changed the system wide default to be private lists. I then setup a list and changed it to be a publicly-advertised list, yet it does not show up.

I verified that the user under which the webserver runs has permissions to read the var-prefix directory, to be really sure I allowed indexes on that directory for a test, I could see them.

Here's the output from strings run over listinfo

/lib/ld-linux.so.2 __gmon_start__ libc.so.6 strcpy getgid printf strerror getegid execve malloc vsnprintf fprintf strcat __deregister_frame_info setregid openlog closelog strncmp syslog stderr __errno_location exit _IO_stdin_used __libc_start_main __register_frame_info GLIBC_2.0 PTRh PPSh ,WVS /home/mailman/scripts/ /home/mailman /usr/bin/python Content-type: text/html <head> <title>Mailman CGI error!!!</title> </head><body> <h1>Mailman CGI error!!!</h1> The expected gid of the Mailman CGI wrapper did not match the gid as set by the Web server. <p>The most likely cause is that Mailman was configured and installed incorrectly. Please read the INSTALL instructions again, paying close attention to the <tt>--with-cgi-gid</tt> configure option. This entry is being stored in your syslog: <pre> </pre> Failure to exec script. WANTED gid %ld, GOT gid %ld. (Reconfigure to take %ld?) PATH= PYTHONHOME= PYTHONPATH= Mailman cgi-wrapper (listinfo) listinfo driver

Any ideas?

Thanks, Chad

Chad M. Stewart

7:30 a.m.

New subject: created private, then changed to public, lists not being advertised

Viewed from the admin links page, the list is viewable.

Running strings on admin I did not see anything that looked very different from listinfo.

-Chad-

On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Chad M. Stewart wrote:

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Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 08:13:05 -0500 (EST) From: Chad M. Stewart <chad@balius.com> To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: [Mailman-Users] created private, then changed to public, lists not being advertised

I built mailman using the following

./configure --prefix=/home/mailman
--with-var-prefix=/home/www/sites/lists.balius.com/docs/
--with-mail-gid=yy
--with-cgi-gid=xxx

I changed the system wide default to be private lists. I then setup a list and changed it to be a publicly-advertised list, yet it does not show up.

I verified that the user under which the webserver runs has permissions to read the var-prefix directory, to be really sure I allowed indexes on that directory for a test, I could see them.

Here's the output from strings run over listinfo

/lib/ld-linux.so.2 __gmon_start__ libc.so.6 strcpy getgid printf strerror getegid execve malloc vsnprintf fprintf strcat __deregister_frame_info setregid openlog closelog strncmp syslog stderr __errno_location exit _IO_stdin_used __libc_start_main __register_frame_info GLIBC_2.0 PTRh PPSh ,WVS /home/mailman/scripts/ /home/mailman /usr/bin/python Content-type: text/html <head> <title>Mailman CGI error!!!</title> </head><body> <h1>Mailman CGI error!!!</h1> The expected gid of the Mailman CGI wrapper did not match the gid as set by the Web server. <p>The most likely cause is that Mailman was configured and installed incorrectly. Please read the INSTALL instructions again, paying close attention to the <tt>--with-cgi-gid</tt> configure option. This entry is being stored in your syslog: <pre> </pre> Failure to exec script. WANTED gid %ld, GOT gid %ld. (Reconfigure to take %ld?) PATH= PYTHONHOME= PYTHONPATH= Mailman cgi-wrapper (listinfo) listinfo driver

Any ideas?

Thanks, Chad

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Vania Lolham

31 Oct 31 Oct

5:51 p.m.

You need to give your URLs to each list for subscribers, now only admin list is visible

Like this:

----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua S. Freeman" <jfreeman@connix.com> To: <mailman-users@python.org> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 3:31 AM Subject: [Mailman-Users] why can't people see my lists?

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http://www.mysql.org/mailman/listinfo/

I have four lists running and. for each of them, in the Privacy Options page I have "Advertise this list when people ask what lists are on the machine?" set to "Yes". Isn't that where I set this feature?

TIA,

J.

(p.s.- i've shutdown and restarted, refreshed, etc.. my browser repeatedly but still no lists are showing up.)

thanks again...

J.
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Vania Lolham

5:55 p.m.

You need to give your URLs to each list for subscribers, now only admin list is visible http://www.mysql.org/mailman/listinfo/

Like this: http://www.mysql.org/mailman/listinfo/dev http://www.mysql.org/mailman/listinfo/doc http://www.mysql.org/mailman/listinfo/examples http://www.mysql.org/mailman/listinfo/support

Cheers

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http://www.mysql.org/mailman/listinfo/

I have four lists running and. for each of them, in the Privacy Options page I have "Advertise this list when people ask what lists are on the machine?" set to "Yes". Isn't that where I set this feature?

TIA,

J.

(p.s.- i've shutdown and restarted, refreshed, etc.. my browser repeatedly but still no lists are showing up.)

thanks again...

J.
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Joshua S. Freeman

1 Nov 1 Nov

8:44 a.m.

ok, but WHERE?.. where do I put those in?

On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Vania Lolham wrote:

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You need to give your URLs to each list for subscribers, now only admin list is visible http://www.mysql.org/mailman/listinfo/

Like this: http://www.mysql.org/mailman/listinfo/dev http://www.mysql.org/mailman/listinfo/doc http://www.mysql.org/mailman/listinfo/examples http://www.mysql.org/mailman/listinfo/support

Cheers

----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua S. Freeman" <jfreeman@connix.com> To: <mailman-users@python.org> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 3:31 AM Subject: [Mailman-Users] why can't people see my lists?

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http://www.mysql.org/mailman/listinfo/

I have four lists running and. for each of them, in the Privacy Options page I have "Advertise this list when people ask what lists are on the machine?" set to "Yes". Isn't that where I set this feature?

TIA,

J.

(p.s.- i've shutdown and restarted, refreshed, etc.. my browser repeatedly but still no lists are showing up.)

thanks again...

J.
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Vania Lolham

3:47 p.m.

How do you advertise your mailing list? On your web site? To get to the "Welcome" page "listinfo" still people have to know about it.

cheers

Joshua S. Freeman

4:07 p.m.

ah so.

understood...

So.. there's no way, from within mailman, to create a mailman-generated page which lists all the lists that that installation of mailman is serving...

gotcha...

Thanks,

On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, Vania Lolham wrote:

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How do you advertise your mailing list? On your web site? To get to the "Welcome" page "listinfo" still people have to know about it.

cheers

Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

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Vania Lolham

5:23 p.m.

The only way public can find your mailing list is by: 1- Placing it in your web site 2- Advertise it on other public newsgroups 3- Mail the URL to all of your clients http://www.<host>/mailman/listinfo/ will reveal nothing

Unless you edit the "~/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py " file and add your lists URL dodgy but it will work. Better option is to put the list on your web site with full link like this http://www.<host>/mailman/listinfo/doc http://www.<host>/mailman/listinfo/examples http://www.<host>/mailman/listinfo/programming and so on

here is an example of a html page <html> <head> <title>Mailing List Page</title> </head> <body> <p> </p> <p>Mailing List</p> <p><a href="http://www.host/mailman/listinfo/dev">dev</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.host/mailman/listinfo/examples">examples</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.host/mailman/listinfo/programming">programming</a></p> <p> </p> </body> </html>

Cheers

----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua S. Freeman" <jfreeman@connix.com> To: "Vania Lolham" <vlolham@bigpond.net.au> Cc: <mailman-users@python.org> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] why can't people see my lists?

| ah so. | | understood... | | So.. there's no way, from within mailman, to create a mailman-generated | page which lists all the lists that that installation of mailman is | serving... | | gotcha... | | Thanks, | | J. | | On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, Vania Lolham wrote: | | > How do you advertise your mailing list? | > On your web site? | > To get to the "Welcome" page "listinfo" still people have to | > know about it. | > | > cheers | > ------------ | > | > | > | > | > ------------------------------------------------------ | > Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users@python.org | > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users | > | | -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- | Joshua S. Freeman | preferred email: jfreeman@connix.com | pgp public key: finger jfreeman@connix.com | http://www.threeofus.com | -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- | | | ------------------------------------------------------ | Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users@python.org | http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

David Pierron

4:10 p.m.

At 08:47 AM 11/02/2001 +1100, you wrote:

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How do you advertise your mailing list? On your web site? To get to the "Welcome" page "listinfo" still people have to know about it.

Uhm .. I dunno, put a link on your home page called Mailing Lists and link it to /mailman/listinfo

Just a thought ...

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