I'm doubting that this is a bug: Bug in Mailman version 2.1.15 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. Jan 01 19:40:49 2013 mailmanctl(3714): PID unreadable in: /var/run/mailman/mailman.pid Jan 01 19:40:49 2013 mailmanctl(3714): [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/run/mailman/mailman.pid' Jan 01 19:40:49 2013 mailmanctl(3714): Is qrunner even running? Jan 02 00:18:02 2013 (8631) command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted) Jan 02 00:18:02 2013 admin(8631): @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ admin(8631): [----- Mailman Version: 2.1.15 -----] admin(8631): [----- Traceback ------] admin(8631): Traceback (most recent call last): admin(8631): File "/var/lib/mailman/scripts/driver", line 112, in run_main admin(8631): main() admin(8631): File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 56, in main admin(8631): process_request(doc, cgidata) admin(8631): File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py", line 239, in process_request admin(8631): sys.modules[modname].create(mlist, cgi=1) admin(8631): File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 241, in create admin(8631): _update_maps() admin(8631): File "/var/lib/mailman/Mailman/MTA/Postfix.py", line 53, in _update_maps admin(8631): raise RuntimeError, msg % (acmd, status, errstr) admin(8631): RuntimeError: command failed: /usr/sbin/postalias /var/lib/mailman/data/aliases (status: 1, Operation not permitted) admin(8631): [----- Python Information -----] admin(8631): sys.version = 2.7.3 (default, Sep 26 2012, 21:53:58) [GCC 4.7.2] admin(8631): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python admin(8631): sys.prefix = /usr admin(8631): sys.exec_prefix = /usr admin(8631): sys.path = ['/var/lib/mailman/pythonlib', '/var/lib/mailman', '/usr/lib/mailman/scripts', '/var/lib/mailman', '/usr/lib/python2.7/', '/usr/lib/python2.7/plat-linux2', '/usr/lib/python2.7/lib-tk', '/usr/lib/python2.7/lib-old', '/usr/lib/python2.7/lib-dynload', '/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages'] admin(8631): sys.platform = linux2 admin(8631): [----- Environment Variables -----] admin(8631): HTTP_REFERER: http://dur.bounceme.net/cgi-bin/mailman/create admin(8631): SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) admin(8631): SCRIPT_NAME: /cgi-bin/mailman/create admin(8631): SERVER_SIGNATURE: <address>Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) Server at dur.bounceme.net Port 80</address> admin(8631): admin(8631): REQUEST_METHOD: POST admin(8631): SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1 admin(8631): QUERY_STRING: admin(8631): CONTENT_LENGTH: 151 admin(8631): HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/17.0 admin(8631): HTTP_CONNECTION: keep-alive admin(8631): SERVER_NAME: dur.bounceme.net admin(8631): REMOTE_ADDR: 127.0.0.1 admin(8631): SERVER_PORT: 80 admin(8631): SERVER_ADDR: 127.0.1.1 admin(8631): DOCUMENT_ROOT: /var/www admin(8631): PYTHONPATH: /var/lib/mailman admin(8631): SCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/mailman/create admin(8631): SERVER_ADMIN: webmaster@localhost admin(8631): HTTP_HOST: dur.bounceme.net admin(8631): REQUEST_URI: /cgi-bin/mailman/create admin(8631): HTTP_ACCEPT: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 admin(8631): GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 admin(8631): REMOTE_PORT: 41626 admin(8631): HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en-US,en;q=0.5 admin(8631): CONTENT_TYPE: application/x-www-form-urlencoded admin(8631): HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip, deflate Ohhhh, I think that I didn't create the aliases, that's all. Pardon, already copy/pasted, etc, so may as well click send before heading off to bed. Pardon, I installed mailman, got it working, and then going through the process again, should've RTFM again. thanks, Thufir