On 4/30/07, David Goldsmith <David.L.Goldsmith@noaa.gov> wrote:
lorenzo bolla wrote:
> me!
> I have two cases.
>
> 1. I need that arctan2(1+0.00000001j,1-0.000001j) gives something
> close to arctan2(1,1): any decent analytic prolungation will do!
>
This is the foreseeable use case described by Anne.
In any event, I stand not only corrected, but embarrassed (for numpy):
Python 2.5 (r25:51918, Sep 19 2006, 08:49:13)
[GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 5341)] on darwin
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import numpy as N
>>> complex(0,1)
1j
>>>
N.arctan(1)
0.78539816339744828
>>> N.arctan(complex(0,1))
Warning: invalid value encountered in arctan
(nannanj)
I agree that arctan should be implemented for _at least_ *one* complex
argument...
It is, you should look at that error a bit more carefully...
-tim
(hint what is arctan(0+1j)?)
DG
>
> 1. if someone of you is familiar with electromagnetic problems, in
> particular with Snell's law, will recognize that in case of
> total internal reflection
> <
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_internal_reflection> the
> wavevector tangential to the interface is real, while the normal
> one is purely imaginary: hence the angle of diffraction is still
> given by arctan2(k_tangent, k_normal), that, as in Matlab or
> Octave, should give pi/2 (that physically means no propagation
> -- total internal reflection, as said).
>
> L.
>
> On 4/30/07, *Anne Archibald* <peridot.faceted@gmail.com
> <mailto:peridot.faceted@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> On 29/04/07, David Goldsmith <David.L.Goldsmith@noaa.gov
> <mailto:David.L.Goldsmith@noaa.gov
>> wrote:
> > Far be it from me to challenge the mighty Wolfram, but I'm not
> sure that
> > using the *formula* for calculating the arctan of a *single*
> complex
> > argument from its real and imaginary parts makes any sense if x
> and/or y
> > are themselves complex (in particular, does Lim(formula), as the
> > imaginary part of complex x and/or y approaches zero, approach
> > arctan2(realpart(x), realpart(y)?) - without going to the trouble to
> > determine it one way or another, I'd be surprised if "their"
> > continuation of the arctan2 function from RxR to CxC is (a. e.)
> > continuous (not that I know for sure that "mine" is...).
>
> Well, yes, in fact, theirs is continuous, and in fact analytic, except
> along the branch cuts (which they describe). Formulas almost always
> yield continuous functions apart from easy-to-recognize cases. (This
> can be made into a specific theorem if you're determined.)
>
> Their formula is a pretty reasonable choice, given that it's not at
> all clear what arctan2 should mean for complex arguments. But for
> numpy it's tempting to simply throw an exception (which would catch
> quite a few programmer errors that would otherwise manifest as
> nonsense numbers). Still, I suppose defining it on the complex
> numbers
> in a way that is continuous close to the real plane allows people to
> put in almost-real complex numbers and get out pretty much the answer
> they expect. Does anyone have an application for which they need
> arctan2 of, say, (1+i,1-i)?
>
> Anne
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