I'd like to reheat the proposition that we enable discussion feature on GitHub for the repos. Not only this makes things a bit more streamlined (transfer nonbug reports to discussions to handle noise there) but also makes it easier to control the discussions. Moreover since it is GitHub there are API-based ways to import mailing lists for NumPy and SciPy with a bit less effort. On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 12:11 PM Andras Deak <deak.andris@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 12:02 PM Ralf Gommers <ralf.gommers@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 11:33 AM Andras Deak <deak.andris@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 11:28 AM Andras Deak <deak.andris@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 11:15 AM Ralf Gommers <ralf.gommers@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 9:32 AM Andras Deak <deak.andris@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi All,
Today both of the python.org mailing lists I'm subscribed to (numpy and scipy-dev) got the same kind of link shortener spam. I assume all the mailing lists started getting these, and that these won't go away for a while.
I don't see these on https://mail.python.org/archives/list/numpy-discussion@python.org/, nor did I receive them (and I did check my spam folder). Do you see it in the archive, or do you understand why you do receive them?
Sorry for not being specific: they were sent as replies to the latest thread on each list, see e.g. at the bottom (6th email, 5th reply) of https://mail.python.org/archives/list/numpy-discussion@python.org/thread/BLC...
Found the permalink: (warning, spam link there) https://mail.python.org/archives/list/numpy-discussion@python.org/message/MW...
Thanks!
Is there any way to prevent these, short of moderating emails from new list members? Assuming the engine even supports that. There aren't many emails, especially from new members, and I can't think of other ways that ensure no false positives in filtering.
We don't have admin access to the python.org lists, so this is a bit of a problem. We have never had a spam problem, so we can ask to block this user first. If it continues to happen, we may be able to moderate new subscriber emails, but we do need to ask for permissions first and I'm not sure we'll get them.
Unfortunately (but unsurprisingly) there are multiple accounts doing this https://mail.python.org/archives/search?q=bit.ly&page=1&sort=date-desc This is why I figured that an _a posteriori_ whack-a-mole against these specific users might not be a feasible solution to the underlying problem.
András
A better solution longer term is migrating to Discourse, which has far better moderation tools than Mailman and is also more approachable for people not used to mailing lists (which is most newcomers to open source). Migrating is a bit of a pain, but with the new CZI grant having a focus on improving the contributor experience, we should be able to do this.
Cheers, Ralf
Since maintainer time is precious, I can volunteer to moderate such emails if needed. Cheers,
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