Numpy 1.20.1 availability

Any idea why the most recent version isn't available on the main anaconda channel. conda-forge and building are not options for a number of reasons. I posted a package request there but double digit days have gone by it just got a thumbs up and package-request tag https://github.com/ContinuumIO/anaconda-issues/issues/12309 I realize it could be the "times" or maybe no one is aware of its absence. -- Sent from: http://numpy-discussion.10968.n7.nabble.com/

I would recommend using the community run conda-forge as one of your default conda channels. They have a very slick largely automated system to update recipes when upstream makes a release. The default Anaconda channel from Anaconda, Inc. (formerly Continuum Analytics, Inc.) is comparatively slow. You may recognise some of the maintainers of the conda-forge numpy recipe? https://github.com/conda-forge/numpy-feedstock/ I'm impressed to see 17 million conda-forge numpy downloads, vs 'just' 2.5 million downloads of the default channel's package: https://anaconda.org/conda-forge/numpy https://anaconda.org/anaconda/numpy Regards, Peter On Sun, Mar 14, 2021 at 8:06 AM Matti Picus <matti.picus@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks, glad to hear that people are aware of the delay. As I said, there are other reasons beyond my control, for the limitations. The wait is on. -- Sent from: http://numpy-discussion.10968.n7.nabble.com/

On Sun, Mar 14, 2021 at 11:14 AM Peter Cock <p.j.a.cock@googlemail.com> wrote:
Agreed. I know the goal of the maintainers of the defaults channel is to make the latest version available quickly. However, `defaults` requires more integration testing than conda-forge/PyPI, and work tends to happen in batches - in the past we've seen update times ranging from days to several months. We have some guidance at https://numpy.org/install/. Basically the two main reasons to use `defaults`: for beginning users with modest needs, the easiest thing to get started is just installing the Anaconda distribution (which gives you `defaults`). Or you have corporate policies to use `defaults` - you can pay Anaconda and it does come with things companies and institutions may need, like guarantees around uptime and security. Cheers, Ralf

On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 10:14:13 +0000 Peter Cock <p.j.a.cock@googlemail.com> wrote:
I'm impressed to see 17 million conda-forge numpy downloads, vs 'just' 2.5 million downloads of the default channel's package:
I doubt the download figures from conda are correct ... A couple of days after my software package has entered "conda-forge" its metric was already 2 orders of magnitude larger than any other distribution route: pip, debian packages, ... Since I know the approximate size of the community, I have some doubts on the figures. I suspect downloads for CI are all accounted and none cached, ... Cheers, Jerome

I would recommend using the community run conda-forge as one of your default conda channels. They have a very slick largely automated system to update recipes when upstream makes a release. The default Anaconda channel from Anaconda, Inc. (formerly Continuum Analytics, Inc.) is comparatively slow. You may recognise some of the maintainers of the conda-forge numpy recipe? https://github.com/conda-forge/numpy-feedstock/ I'm impressed to see 17 million conda-forge numpy downloads, vs 'just' 2.5 million downloads of the default channel's package: https://anaconda.org/conda-forge/numpy https://anaconda.org/anaconda/numpy Regards, Peter On Sun, Mar 14, 2021 at 8:06 AM Matti Picus <matti.picus@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks, glad to hear that people are aware of the delay. As I said, there are other reasons beyond my control, for the limitations. The wait is on. -- Sent from: http://numpy-discussion.10968.n7.nabble.com/

On Sun, Mar 14, 2021 at 11:14 AM Peter Cock <p.j.a.cock@googlemail.com> wrote:
Agreed. I know the goal of the maintainers of the defaults channel is to make the latest version available quickly. However, `defaults` requires more integration testing than conda-forge/PyPI, and work tends to happen in batches - in the past we've seen update times ranging from days to several months. We have some guidance at https://numpy.org/install/. Basically the two main reasons to use `defaults`: for beginning users with modest needs, the easiest thing to get started is just installing the Anaconda distribution (which gives you `defaults`). Or you have corporate policies to use `defaults` - you can pay Anaconda and it does come with things companies and institutions may need, like guarantees around uptime and security. Cheers, Ralf

On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 10:14:13 +0000 Peter Cock <p.j.a.cock@googlemail.com> wrote:
I'm impressed to see 17 million conda-forge numpy downloads, vs 'just' 2.5 million downloads of the default channel's package:
I doubt the download figures from conda are correct ... A couple of days after my software package has entered "conda-forge" its metric was already 2 orders of magnitude larger than any other distribution route: pip, debian packages, ... Since I know the approximate size of the community, I have some doubts on the figures. I suspect downloads for CI are all accounted and none cached, ... Cheers, Jerome
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