On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 09:59, Charles R Harris wrote:

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Michael Abbott wrote:

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I'm reviewing my tickets (seems a good thing to do with a release imminent), and I'll post up each ticket that merits comment as a separate message.

Ticket #843 has gone into trunk (commit 5361, oliphant) ... but your editor appears to be introducing hard tabs! Hard tab characters are fortunately relatively rare in numpy source, but my patch has gone in with tabs I didn't use.

/me wanders off muttering darkly about the evils of tab characters... ___

Thanks for doing this. If Travis doesn't comment in the next day or two I'll look to making the changes.

He's on vacation, so do what you think is best. -- Robert Kern "I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth." -- Umberto Eco

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Charles R Harris apparently wrote:

Hard tab characters are fortunately relatively rare in numpy source

http://www.rizzoweb.com/java/tabs-vs-spaces.html Cheers, Alan Isaac

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Michael Abbott wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Alan G Isaac wrote:

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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Charles R Harris apparently wrote: Michael Abbott actually wrote:

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Hard tab characters are fortunately relatively rare in numpy source http://www.rizzoweb.com/java/tabs-vs-spaces.html

Ha ha ha! I'm not going to rise to the bait.

Well, I'll just say: source code is a concrete expression, not an abstraction.

I expect an argument on this topic could be unhealthy...

In any case, the python standard is four spaces. Linux uses tabs. When in Rome... Chuck

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Alan G Isaac wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Charles R Harris apparently wrote:

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the python standard is four spaces

It is only a recommendation: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/ (And a misguided one at that. ;-) )

I see your pep-0008 and raise you pep-3100 ;) - The C style guide will be updated to use 4-space indents, never tabs. This style should be used for all new files; existing files can be updated only if there is no hope to ever merge a particular file from the Python 2 HEAD. Within a file, the indentation style should be consistent. No other style guide changes are planned ATM. I'll bet you use Emacs too ;) Chuck

2008/7/16 Christopher Barker :

Indentation is syntax in python -- we do need to all do it the same way, and four spaces is the standard -- there simply isn't another reasonable option if you want o share code with anyone else.

I agree. Let's just end this thread here. It simply can't lead to any useful discussion. Stéfan