Here are some of the factors leading to the slow rate of change of Numeric lately. a. I changed to a new project and have had a lot of startup learning to do. My new project uses Numeric but not in as central a way as my old one. b. I mistakenly thought numarray would be ready sooner so that I was trying to let it slide. c. I announced last year, in view of (a), that I was needing to be replaced as HeadNummie. It would be logical to turn this over to the Numarray people, but they aren't ready to do it until Numarray is ready, so nothing happened. d. Except for Travis, most of the other listed Numeric developers aren't in fact doing patches, releases, etc. e. Not all patches that are submitted are correct or desirable, historically. I'm not saying anything about any patches you may have submitted, just pointing out that applying them requires real work, not just mechanical patching. In fact the rate of error in patches is quite high and I've learned to be cautious. f. Some patches interfere with each other; for example, a patch for making 64 bit machines work right and a patch for some specific bug collided. I've started to work on the MA for Numarray but I'm not able to do much work on Numeric right now. This is a place where someone else has to help.
-- Original Message -- To: dubois@users.sourceforge.net Subject: numarray/Numeric upkeep? From: Michael Stone
Cc: Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 11:32:03 -0800 No one seems to be doing bugfixes for Numeric or numarray. Nothing seems to have happened for several months. Lots of bugs have been posted for Numeric, some easily fixable (I submitted one with a patch).
Any idea if either project will become active again anytime soon?
Michael Stone wrote:
No one seems to be doing bugfixes for Numeric or numarray. Nothing seems to have happened for several months. Lots of bugs have been ...
It certainly isn't true that nothing has happened for several months with numarray. On what do you base this belief? While not all bugs have been fixed, the oldest listed in the numarray bug tracker is from December. Is there a bug you feel needs urgent attention? Work is continuing and new releases will be coming out. As to Paul's comments regarding when numarray will be ready, my guess is when the following are complete: - Package reorganization (make numarray a package) - Optimization for small arrays (making numarray'speed with small arrays more comparable with Numeric; this is probably the single largest remaining item) - Porting some well known packages such as MA (which Paul is working on), scipy, pyopengl and such to work with numarray. Some of this has been started. There are other smaller things to do as well. But I'm hoping that we can be done with these in a few months. Perry
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