Re: [Numpy-discussion] Academic citation ?
What is the most up-to-date way to cite Numpy and Scipy in an academic journal ?
Cite our conference articles here: http://conference.scipy.org/proceedings/SciPy2008/index.html It would be nice if someone involved in the proceedings could post a bibtex on the citations page. And link the citations page to...something...easily navigated to from the front page. This brings up a related point: When someone goes to scipy.org, there is no way to navigate to conferences.scipy.org from scipy.org except by finding the link buried in the intro text. Ipython and all the whatever.scipy.org domains, except for docs.scipy.org, are completely absent; you have to know about them to find them. I don't even know where to find a complete list of these. They should all have a presence on at least the front page and maybe the navigation. --jh--
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:56:27AM -0500, jh@physics.ucf.edu wrote:
http://conference.scipy.org/proceedings/SciPy2008/index.html
It would be nice if someone involved in the proceedings could post a bibtex on the citations page.
You want a bibtex entry that would be for all the proceedings? That may be an idea. I wouldn't agree that this is similar to citing the numpy or scipy authors, as Travis O and a few other did a huge amount of work, to get these packages running, and they are not even in the proceedings. In the long run, it would be great if the proceedings reflected well the on-going contributions to the community. Right now things are still in movement.
And link the citations page to...something...easily navigated to from the front page.
That's easy.
This brings up a related point:
When someone goes to scipy.org, there is no way to navigate to conferences.scipy.org from scipy.org except by finding the link buried in the intro text. Ipython and all the whatever.scipy.org domains, except for docs.scipy.org, are completely absent; you have to know about them to find them. I don't even know where to find a complete list of these. They should all have a presence on at least the front page and maybe the navigation.
Yes, that's a big issue. The front page needs to be completely reworked, and probably not put as a wiki. Stefan had started some work on that, but he has a thesis to write, right now. Gaël
JH, Thx for the links, but I'm afraid I need something more basic than that. For example, I'm referring to Python as: van Rossum, G. and Drake, F. L. (eds), 2006. Python Reference Manual, Python Software Foundation,. http://docs.python.org/ref/ref.html. I could indeed use http://www.scipy.org/Citing_SciPy to cite Scipy (although the citation is incomplete), and define something similar for Numpy... Or refer to the "Computing in Science and Engineering" special issue. I'm just a bit surprised there's no official standard. Thx, P. On Jan 26, 2009, at 10:56 AM, jh@physics.ucf.edu wrote:
What is the most up-to-date way to cite Numpy and Scipy in an academic journal ?
Cite our conference articles here:
http://conference.scipy.org/proceedings/SciPy2008/index.html
It would be nice if someone involved in the proceedings could post a bibtex on the citations page. And link the citations page to...something...easily navigated to from the front page.
This brings up a related point:
When someone goes to scipy.org, there is no way to navigate to conferences.scipy.org from scipy.org except by finding the link buried in the intro text. Ipython and all the whatever.scipy.org domains, except for docs.scipy.org, are completely absent; you have to know about them to find them. I don't even know where to find a complete list of these. They should all have a presence on at least the front page and maybe the navigation.
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@MANUAL{ascher.dubois.hinsen.hugunin.oliphant-1999-np, author = {Ascher, David and Paul F. Dubois and Konrad Hinsen and James Hugunin and Travis Oliphant}, year = 1999, title = {Numerical Python}, edition = {UCRL-MA-128569}, address = {Livermore, CA}, organization = {Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory}, keywords = {numpy} } @ARTICLE{dubois.hinsen.hugunin-1996-cp, author = {Dubois, Paul F. and Konrad Hinsen and James Hugunin}, year = {1996}, title = {Numerical Python}, journal = {Computers in Physics}, volume = 10, number = 3, month = {May/June}, keywords = {numpy} } @ARTICLE{dubois-1999-cse, author = {Dubois, Paul F.}, year = 1999, title = {Extending Python with Fortran}, journal = {Computing Science and Engineering}, volume = 1, number = 5, month = {Sep/Oct}, pages = {66--73}, keywords = {numpy} } @MANUAL{oliphant-2006-guide, author = {Oliphant, Travis E.}, year = 2006, title = {Guide to NumPy}, month = mar, address = {Provo, UT}, institution = {Brigham Young University}, url = {http://www.tramy.us/}, keywords = {numpy} }
Alan, Awesome, thx! Now, what about the very last one ?
@MANUAL{oliphant-2006-guide, author = {Oliphant, Travis E.}, year = 2006, title = {Guide to NumPy}, month = mar, address = {Provo, UT}, institution = {Brigham Young University}, url = {http://www.tramy.us/}, keywords = {numpy} }
Shouldn't we refer to the new doc.scipy.org instead of Travis' site ?
On 1/26/2009 12:48 PM Pierre GM apparently wrote:
Shouldn't we refer to the new doc.scipy.org instead of Travis' site ?
Not in my opinion: Travis wrote a book, which is what is being cited. The docs link is in fact to the same tramy site. I must add that IMO, it would be a courtesy for the docs to actually link to http://www.tramy.us/ rather than directly to the PDF. I for one urge my students to make the suggested donation when they download the book, and I am disappointed that the docs page renders this suggestion invisible. Alan
Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:10:46 -0500, Alan G Isaac wrote:
On 1/26/2009 12:48 PM Pierre GM apparently wrote:
Shouldn't we refer to the new doc.scipy.org instead of Travis' site ?
Not in my opinion: Travis wrote a book, which is what is being cited.
The docs link is in fact to the same tramy site.
I must add that IMO, it would be a courtesy for the docs to actually link to http://www.tramy.us/ rather than directly to the PDF. I for one urge my students to make the suggested donation when they download the book, and I am disappointed that the docs page renders this suggestion invisible.
Fixed, no need to be dissappointed any more. It actually didn't cross my mind that there was a reason not to link directly to the PDF file, but I see now that there is. -- Pauli Virtanen
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