Hi all, In NEP 50 (https://numpy.org/neps/nep-0050-scalar-promotion.html) my current proposal is that the following: np.array([1, 2], dtype="uint8") + (-1) which currently returns an "int16" array must raise an error. This is because we want to return a uint8 array but the -1 cannot be represented well by -1. The same should also happen for a value of 300 (rather than -1). My main question is not about making this an error though. The question is whether the following two cases should also error: uint8_arr = np.array([1, 2], dtype="uint8") uint8_arr[0] = -1 or: np.array([-1], dtype=np.uint8) (In practice these currently give the maximum integer with well defined integer overflow.) Note that the call `np.uint8(-1)` could be a special case here! The reason I ask is that my PR: https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/21875 currently introduces the new error without changing the other cases and this requires adding a full new conversion path. If we want to change that anyway (or keep things aligned), I could simplify the logic in the PR. Cheers, Sebastian