[ANN] Bento (ex-toydist) 0.0.3
Hi, I am pleased to announce the release 0.0.3 for Bento, the pythonic packaging solution. Wherease the 0.0.2 release was mostly about getting the simplest-still-useful subset of distutils features, this new release adds quite a few significant features: - Add hooks to customize arbitrary stages in bento (there is a hackish example which shows how to use waf to build a simple C extension). The API for this is still in flux, though - Parallel and reliable build of C extensions through yaku build library. - One file distribution: no need for your users to install any new packages, just include one single file into your package to build with bento - Improved documentation - 2.4 -> 2.7 support, tested on linux/windows/mac os x You can download bento on github: http://github.com/cournape/Bento cheers, David
Hi, While I agree that toydist needs a new name, Bento might not be a good choice. It's already the name of a database system for Macintosh from Filemaker, an Apple subsidiary. I'd be *very* surprised if the name Bento is not copyrighted. Have a look at http://www.filemaker.com/products/bento/ Too bad, because the lunchbox metaphor seems like a good one. Bob On Jul 1, 2010, at 10:34 PM, David wrote:
Hi,
I am pleased to announce the release 0.0.3 for Bento, the pythonic packaging solution.
Wherease the 0.0.2 release was mostly about getting the simplest-still-useful subset of distutils features, this new release adds quite a few significant features:
- Add hooks to customize arbitrary stages in bento (there is a hackish example which shows how to use waf to build a simple C extension). The API for this is still in flux, though - Parallel and reliable build of C extensions through yaku build library. - One file distribution: no need for your users to install any new packages, just include one single file into your package to build with bento - Improved documentation - 2.4 -> 2.7 support, tested on linux/windows/mac os x
You can download bento on github: http://github.com/cournape/Bento
cheers,
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On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Robert Pyle <rpyle@post.harvard.edu> wrote:
Hi,
While I agree that toydist needs a new name, Bento might not be a good choice. It's already the name of a database system for Macintosh from Filemaker, an Apple subsidiary. I'd be *very* surprised if the name Bento is not copyrighted.
Can you copyright a word ? I thought this was the trademark part of the law. For example, "linux" is a trademark owned by Linus Torvald. Also, well known packages use words which are at least as common as bento in English (sphinx, twisted, etc...), and as likely to be trademarked. But IANAL... cheers, David
David Cournapeau wrote:
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Robert Pyle <rpyle@post.harvard.edu> wrote:
Hi,
While I agree that toydist needs a new name, Bento might not be a good choice. It's already the name of a database system for Macintosh from Filemaker, an Apple subsidiary. I'd be *very* surprised if the name Bento is not copyrighted.
Can you copyright a word ? I thought this was the trademark part of the law. For example, "linux" is a trademark owned by Linus Torvald. Also, well known packages use words which are at least as common as bento in English (sphinx, twisted, etc...), and as likely to be trademarked. But IANAL...
There's been lots of discussions about this on the Sage list, since there's lots of software called Sage. It seems that the consensus of IANAL advice on that list is that as long as they're not competing in the same market they're OK. For instance, there's been some talk about whether it's OK to include economics utilities in Sage since there's an accounting software (?) called Sage -- that sort of thing. Thanks for your work David, I'll make sure to check it out soon! Dag Sverre
On 07/02/2010 05:05 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote:
David Cournapeau wrote:
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Robert Pyle<rpyle@post.harvard.edu> wrote:
Hi,
While I agree that toydist needs a new name, Bento might not be a good choice. It's already the name of a database system for Macintosh from Filemaker, an Apple subsidiary. I'd be *very* surprised if the name Bento is not copyrighted.
Can you copyright a word ? I thought this was the trademark part of the law. For example, "linux" is a trademark owned by Linus Torvald. Also, well known packages use words which are at least as common as bento in English (sphinx, twisted, etc...), and as likely to be trademarked. But IANAL...
There's been lots of discussions about this on the Sage list, since there's lots of software called Sage. It seems that the consensus of IANAL advice on that list is that as long as they're not competing in the same market they're OK. For instance, there's been some talk about whether it's OK to include economics utilities in Sage since there's an accounting software (?) called Sage -- that sort of thing.
Thanks. that's useful to know.
Thanks for your work David, I'll make sure to check it out soon!
Note that cython setup.py can be automatically converted - there is a small issue with the setup docstring which contains rest syntax incompatible with bento.info format (when empty lines has a different amount of space than the current indentation). But once you manually edit those, you can build egg, windows installer and install cython. In particular, the cython script is "exucutablified" like setuptools does, so cython is a bit more practical to use on windows. cheers, David
On Jul 2, 2010, at 1:11 AM, David Cournapeau wrote:
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Robert Pyle <rpyle@post.harvard.edu> wrote:
Hi,
While I agree that toydist needs a new name, Bento might not be a good choice. It's already the name of a database system for Macintosh from Filemaker, an Apple subsidiary. I'd be *very* surprised if the name Bento is not copyrighted.
Can you copyright a word ? I thought this was the trademark part of the law. For example, "linux" is a trademark owned by Linus Torvald. Also, well known packages use words which are at least as common as bento in English (sphinx, twisted, etc...), and as likely to be trademarked. But IANAL...
cheers,
David
It was very late last night when I wrote. I meant to say 'trademark' rather than 'copyright'. But IANAL, also. Bob
Hi,
Can you copyright a word ? I thought this was the trademark part of the law. For example, "linux" is a trademark owned by Linus Torvald. Also, well known packages use words which are at least as common as bento in English (sphinx, twisted, etc...), and as likely to be trademarked.
I got ripely panned for doing this before, but... If you have a look at - to reduce controversy - : http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/metaschool/fisher/domain/tm.htm#7 you'll see a summary of the criteria used. I read this stuff as meaning that, if you're doing something that has a low 'likelihood of confusion' with the other guy / gal doing 'Bento', and the other 'Bento' trademark is not 'famous', you're probably, but not certainly, safe from successful prosecution. See you, Matthew
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