Hi,
I was thinking about our PR for numpy. Imo, the best page that we can currently show to newcomers is www.scipy.org. There they find out what is Numpy, where you can download it, documentation, cookbook recipes, examples, libraries that build on NumPy like SciPy, etc. In addition, it's the page that, imho, looks the most professional.
Googling for "numpy" gives:
1) numeric.scipy.org/
Travis' webpage on Numpy. Travis, would you consider putting a much more pronounced link to scipy.org? The current link to is at the very bottom of the page and has no further comments...
2) www.numpy.org/
One is redirected to the sourceforge site. Question: why not to the scipy.org site? The reason why no wiki page is set up here is, I guess, because there is already one at scipy.org. So why not directly linking to it?
3) www.pfdubois.com/numpy/
This site is actually closed. It only contains a short paragraph pointing to the page http://sourceforge.net/projects/numpy.
4) www.pfdubois.com/numpy/html2/numpy.html
This is a potentially very confusing web page. It constantly talks about 'Numpy' but is actually refering to the obsolete 'Numeric'. Perhaps this page could be taken down?
5) sourceforge.net/projects/numpy
The download site for NumPy. This page doesn't contain a link to scipy.org.
6) www.python.org/moin/NumericAndScientificnumpy.html
Informationless webpage.
7) wiki.python.org/moin/NumericAndScientific
Up-to-date webpage, but refers to numeric.scipy.org for NumPy.
8) www.scipy.org/
And YES, finally... :o)
Perhaps we could try to take scipy.org a bit higher in the Google ranking? I am not a HTML expert at all, but may a header in the www.scipy.org source code like
<meta name="keywords" content="numpy scipy">
help?
Cheers, Joris
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I killed pfdubois/numpy.
On 23 May 2006 07:18:32 -0700, joris@ster.kuleuven.ac.be < joris@ster.kuleuven.ac.be> wrote:
Hi,
I was thinking about our PR for numpy. Imo, the best page that we can currently show to newcomers is www.scipy.org. There they find out what is Numpy, where you can download it, documentation, cookbook recipes, examples, libraries that build on NumPy like SciPy, etc. In addition, it's the page that, imho, looks the most professional.
Googling for "numpy" gives:
- numeric.scipy.org/
Travis' webpage on Numpy. Travis, would you consider putting a much more pronounced link to scipy.org? The current link to is at the very bottom of the page and has no further comments...
- www.numpy.org/
One is redirected to the sourceforge site. Question: why not to the scipy.org site? The reason why no wiki page is set up here is, I guess, because there is already one at scipy.org. So why not directly linking to it?
- www.pfdubois.com/numpy/
This site is actually closed. It only contains a short paragraph pointing to the page http://sourceforge.net/projects/numpy.
- www.pfdubois.com/numpy/html2/numpy.html
This is a potentially very confusing web page. It constantly talks about 'Numpy' but is actually refering to the obsolete 'Numeric'. Perhaps this page could be taken down?
- sourceforge.net/projects/numpy
The download site for NumPy. This page doesn't contain a link to scipy.org .
- www.python.org/moin/NumericAndScientificnumpy.html
Informationless webpage.
- wiki.python.org/moin/NumericAndScientific
Up-to-date webpage, but refers to numeric.scipy.org for NumPy.
- www.scipy.org/
And YES, finally... :o)
Perhaps we could try to take scipy.org a bit higher in the Google ranking? I am not a HTML expert at all, but may a header in the www.scipy.orgsource code like
<meta name="keywords" content="numpy scipy">
help?
Cheers, Joris
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I updated the python moin pages.
On 5/23/06, joris@ster.kuleuven.ac.be joris@ster.kuleuven.ac.be wrote:
Hi,
I was thinking about our PR for numpy. Imo, the best page that we can currently show to newcomers is www.scipy.org. There they find out what is Numpy, where you can download it, documentation, cookbook recipes, examples, libraries that build on NumPy like SciPy, etc. In addition, it's the page that, imho, looks the most professional.
Googling for "numpy" gives:
- numeric.scipy.org/
Travis' webpage on Numpy. Travis, would you consider putting a much more pronounced link to scipy.org? The current link to is at the very bottom of the page and has no further comments...
- www.numpy.org/
One is redirected to the sourceforge site. Question: why not to the scipy.org site? The reason why no wiki page is set up here is, I guess, because there is already one at scipy.org. So why not directly linking to it?
- www.pfdubois.com/numpy/
This site is actually closed. It only contains a short paragraph pointing to the page http://sourceforge.net/projects/numpy.
- www.pfdubois.com/numpy/html2/numpy.html
This is a potentially very confusing web page. It constantly talks about 'Numpy' but is actually refering to the obsolete 'Numeric'. Perhaps this page could be taken down?
- sourceforge.net/projects/numpy
The download site for NumPy. This page doesn't contain a link to scipy.org.
- www.python.org/moin/NumericAndScientificnumpy.html
Informationless webpage.
- wiki.python.org/moin/NumericAndScientific
Up-to-date webpage, but refers to numeric.scipy.org for NumPy.
- www.scipy.org/
And YES, finally... :o)
Perhaps we could try to take scipy.org a bit higher in the Google ranking? I am not a HTML expert at all, but may a header in the www.scipy.org source code like
<meta name="keywords" content="numpy scipy">
help?
Cheers, Joris
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Jonathan Taylor wrote: | I updated the python moin pages.
I created a link from my own bookmark page, which is reasonably ranked in google.... ;-) If we all link to scipy.org somewhere useful, it will be raised in googles ranking automatically, and completely legitimately.
Rob
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"Rob" == Rob Hooft rob@hooft.net writes:
Rob> Jonathan Taylor wrote: | I updated the python moin pages.
Rob> I created a link from my own bookmark page, which is Rob> reasonably ranked in google.... ;-) If we all link to Rob> scipy.org somewhere useful, it will be raised in googles Rob> ranking automatically, and completely legitimately.
A very good (legitimate) way to raise your google page rank is to post announcements to python-announce and python-list with the keywords you want google to match on in the subject heading. Mix these up between announces to cover the space
ANN: scipy.xxx: scientific tools for python ANN: scipy.xyz: python algorithms and array methods
etc..... These will be magnified across the net through RSS and mirrors, much faster than a few people making links on their homepages. Also, include the keywords you want google to match in the title field of the scipy.org html. The title is now simply scipy.org and making it something like "scientific tools for python" will help.
JDH
Rob Hooft wrote:
I created a link from my own bookmark page, which is reasonably ranked in google.... ;-) If we all link to scipy.org somewhere useful, it will be raised in googles ranking automatically, and completely legitimately.
ideally, put your link in so that users click on "numpy" to get there, that has a large impact on Google (see google bombing, or google "failure" for an explanation)
like this: <a href="http://www.scipy.org">numpy</a>
However, I"m not sure that the scipy site should be the first one people find. I vote for creating a good the home page for the sourceforge site at www.numpy.org. Travis' page at numeric.scipy.org would be a good start.
-Chris
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