Looking at https://pypistats.org/packages/numpy , it appears that August 24 was the last day when numpy had more Python 2 downloads than Python 3 downloads (maybe ever?). -n -- Nathaniel J. Smith -- https://vorpus.org
On 7. Sep 2018, at 06:33, Nathaniel Smith <njs@pobox.com> wrote:
Looking at https://pypistats.org/packages/numpy , it appears that August 24 was the last day when numpy had more Python 2 downloads than Python 3 downloads (maybe ever?).
Good news, it is about time. Just out of curiosity, what happened after Jul 27, when the downloads doubled?
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 1:19 AM, Hans Dembinski <hans.dembinski@gmail.com> wrote:
On 7. Sep 2018, at 06:33, Nathaniel Smith <njs@pobox.com> wrote:
Looking at https://pypistats.org/packages/numpy , it appears that August 24 was the last day when numpy had more Python 2 downloads than Python 3 downloads (maybe ever?).
Good news, it is about time.
Just out of curiosity, what happened after Jul 27, when the downloads doubled?
It turns out the original version of the statistics aggregation program crashed constantly and lost tons of data. Donald Stufft rewrote it (using my library trio :-)), and deployed it on July 26: https://github.com/pypa/linehaul/issues/30 So the old download stats are artifactually low, and from July 26 the stats are accurate. -n -- Nathaniel J. Smith -- https://vorpus.org
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 2:31 AM Nathaniel Smith <njs@pobox.com> wrote:
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 1:19 AM, Hans Dembinski <hans.dembinski@gmail.com> wrote:
On 7. Sep 2018, at 06:33, Nathaniel Smith <njs@pobox.com> wrote:
Looking at https://pypistats.org/packages/numpy , it appears that August 24 was the last day when numpy had more Python 2 downloads than Python 3 downloads (maybe ever?).
Good news, it is about time.
Just out of curiosity, what happened after Jul 27, when the downloads
doubled?
It turns out the original version of the statistics aggregation program crashed constantly and lost tons of data. Donald Stufft rewrote it (using my library trio :-)), and deployed it on July 26:
https://github.com/pypa/linehaul/issues/30
So the old download stats are artifactually low, and from July 26 the stats are accurate.
Thanks for the link. It would be nice to improve the Windows numbers, Linux is still very dominant. I suppose that might be an artifact of the systems used by developers as opposed to end users. It would be a different open source world if Microsoft had always released their compilers for free and kept them current with the evolving ISO specs. Chuck
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 6:33 PM, Charles R Harris <charlesr.harris@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the link. It would be nice to improve the Windows numbers, Linux is still very dominant. I suppose that might be an artifact of the systems used by developers as opposed to end users. It would be a different open source world if Microsoft had always released their compilers for free and kept them current with the evolving ISO specs.
Well, keep in mind also that it's counting installs, not users... people destroy and reinstall Linux systems a *lot* more often than they do Windows/macOS systems, what with clouds and containers and CI systems and all. On my personal laptop I install numpy maybe once per release, but on Travis I install it half a dozen times every day. -n -- Nathaniel J. Smith -- https://vorpus.org
but on Travis I install it half a dozen times every day.
Good point. I wonder if there's any way to take that into account when considering whether to drop versions. On Sat, 8 Sep 2018 at 15:14, Nathaniel Smith <njs@pobox.com> wrote:
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 6:33 PM, Charles R Harris <charlesr.harris@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the link. It would be nice to improve the Windows numbers, Linux is still very dominant. I suppose that might be an artifact of the systems used by developers as opposed to end users. It would be a different open source world if Microsoft had always released their compilers for free and kept them current with the evolving ISO specs.
Well, keep in mind also that it's counting installs, not users... people destroy and reinstall Linux systems a *lot* more often than they do Windows/macOS systems, what with clouds and containers and CI systems and all. On my personal laptop I install numpy maybe once per release, but on Travis I install it half a dozen times every day.
-n
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On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 11:16 PM Andrew Nelson <andyfaff@gmail.com> wrote:
but on Travis I install it half a dozen times every day.
Good point. I wonder if there's any way to take that into account when considering whether to drop versions.
On Sat, 8 Sep 2018 at 15:14, Nathaniel Smith <njs@pobox.com> wrote:
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 6:33 PM, Charles R Harris <charlesr.harris@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the link. It would be nice to improve the Windows numbers, Linux is still very dominant. I suppose that might be an artifact of the systems used by developers as opposed to end users. It would be a different open source world if Microsoft had always released their compilers for free and kept them current with the evolving ISO specs.
Well, keep in mind also that it's counting installs, not users... people destroy and reinstall Linux systems a *lot* more often than they do Windows/macOS systems, what with clouds and containers and CI systems and all. On my personal laptop I install numpy maybe once per release, but on Travis I install it half a dozen times every day.
Would be interesting if the travisCI and appveyor downloads could be separated out.
Chuck
There are probably a LOT of Windows users getting numpy from conda as well. (I know my CI's and users do...) It'd be nice if there was some way to track real usage! -CHB On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 3:44 PM, Charles R Harris <charlesr.harris@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 11:16 PM Andrew Nelson <andyfaff@gmail.com> wrote:
but on Travis I install it half a dozen times every day.
Good point. I wonder if there's any way to take that into account when considering whether to drop versions.
On Sat, 8 Sep 2018 at 15:14, Nathaniel Smith <njs@pobox.com> wrote:
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 6:33 PM, Charles R Harris <charlesr.harris@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the link. It would be nice to improve the Windows numbers, Linux is still very dominant. I suppose that might be an artifact of the systems used by developers as opposed to end users. It would be a different open source world if Microsoft had always released their compilers for free and kept them current with the evolving ISO specs.
Well, keep in mind also that it's counting installs, not users... people destroy and reinstall Linux systems a *lot* more often than they do Windows/macOS systems, what with clouds and containers and CI systems and all. On my personal laptop I install numpy maybe once per release, but on Travis I install it half a dozen times every day.
Would be interesting if the travisCI and appveyor downloads could be separated out.
Chuck
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On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 12:03 PM Chris Barker <chris.barker@noaa.gov> wrote:
There are probably a LOT of Windows users getting numpy from conda as well.
(I know my CI's and users do...)
It'd be nice if there was some way to track real usage!
I wonder if the conda folks have some statistics? <snip> Chuck
In addition to this, at least half the Windows-using Python people in my social circle of switched to Windows Subsystem for Linux, which is quite good now. In include myself in this, and only use python from "Windows" when I have to deal with Access or MS-SQL Server databases (probably 10% of my workload, lately) -paul On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 12:18 PM Charles R Harris <charlesr.harris@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 12:03 PM Chris Barker <chris.barker@noaa.gov> wrote:
There are probably a LOT of Windows users getting numpy from conda as well.
(I know my CI's and users do...)
It'd be nice if there was some way to track real usage!
I wonder if the conda folks have some statistics?
<snip>
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