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Vista installer?

Ryan Krauss

24 May 2007 24 May '07

9:57 p.m.

I am trying to use Numpy/Scipy for a class I am teaching this summer. I have one student running Vista. Is there an installer that works for Vista? Running the exe file from webpage gives errors about not being able to create various folders and files. I think this is from Vista being very restrictive about which files and folders are writable. Is anyone out there running Numpy/Scipy in Vista? If so, how did you get it to work? Thanks, Ryan

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Charles R Harris

26 May 26 May

4:11 p.m.

On 5/24/07, Ryan Krauss wrote:

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I am trying to use Numpy/Scipy for a class I am teaching this summer. I have one student running Vista. Is there an installer that works for Vista? Running the exe file from webpage gives errors about not being able to create various folders and files. I think this is from Vista being very restrictive about which files and folders are writable. Is anyone out there running Numpy/Scipy in Vista? If so, how did you get it to work?

Install Ubuntu? ;) I've heard nothing but complaints and nasty words from co-workers stuck with new computers and trying to use Vista as a development platform for scientific work. Chuck

Carl Trachte

5:29 p.m.

For the case in question, having the student set up his or her personal computer to work for the class (dual boot/Ubuntu) would probably be fine. Long term, though, I don't think Vista can be written off as a supported platform. If you're forced by your system admin to use it in a work environment AND you need Numpy, ignoring it isn't the answer. I'm not complaining (It would take me longer than Vista's commercial life to shoehorn a solution to this problem myself). I am however following this thread to see how it plays out. This way I can at least start planning ahead in the work environment (I DO have FreeBSD, Ubuntu, and Windows XP installed on my home computers). My 2 cents. Carl T. On 5/26/07, Charles R Harris wrote:

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On 5/24/07, Ryan Krauss wrote:

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I am trying to use Numpy/Scipy for a class I am teaching this summer. I have one student running Vista. Is there an installer that works for Vista? Running the exe file from webpage gives errors about not being able to create various folders and files. I think this is from Vista being very restrictive about which files and folders are writable. Is anyone out there running Numpy/Scipy in Vista? If so, how did you get it to work?

Install Ubuntu? ;) I've heard nothing but complaints and nasty words from co-workers stuck with new computers and trying to use Vista as a development platform for scientific work.

Chuck

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Andrew Straw

27 May 27 May

8:32 p.m.

Charles R Harris wrote:

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On 5/24/07, *Ryan Krauss* mailto:ryanlists@gmail.com> wrote:

I am trying to use Numpy/Scipy for a class I am teaching this summer. I have one student running Vista. Is there an installer that works for Vista? Running the exe file from webpage gives errors about not being able to create various folders and files. I think this is from Vista being very restrictive about which files and folders are writable. Is anyone out there running Numpy/Scipy in Vista? If so, how did you get it to work?

Install Ubuntu? ;) I've heard nothing but complaints and nasty words from co-workers stuck with new computers and trying to use Vista as a development platform for scientific work.

Just a follow-up, vmware is now given away and Ubuntu has always been free, and I guess most computers with Vista have native support for virtualization. So, this way you could run Ubuntu and Vista simultaneously without a speed loss on either or partitioning the drive. Of course, if it were me I'd put Ubuntu as the host OS and probably never boot the guest OS. ;)

Ryan Krauss

28 May 28 May

11:54 p.m.

What is the easiet way to get started with VMWare with windows as the host operating system? Do I need just VMware player? Do I need some Ubuntu kernel or image or something? Ryan On 5/27/07, Andrew Straw wrote:

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Charles R Harris wrote:

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On 5/24/07, *Ryan Krauss* mailto:ryanlists@gmail.com> wrote:

I am trying to use Numpy/Scipy for a class I am teaching this summer. I have one student running Vista. Is there an installer that works for Vista? Running the exe file from webpage gives errors about not being able to create various folders and files. I think this is from Vista being very restrictive about which files and folders are writable. Is anyone out there running Numpy/Scipy in Vista? If so, how did you get it to work?

Install Ubuntu? ;) I've heard nothing but complaints and nasty words from co-workers stuck with new computers and trying to use Vista as a development platform for scientific work.

Just a follow-up, vmware is now given away and Ubuntu has always been free, and I guess most computers with Vista have native support for virtualization. So, this way you could run Ubuntu and Vista simultaneously without a speed loss on either or partitioning the drive. Of course, if it were me I'd put Ubuntu as the host OS and probably never boot the guest OS. ;) _______________________________________________ Numpy-discussion mailing list Numpy-discussion@scipy.org http://projects.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion

Bryce Hendrix

29 May 29 May

12:14 a.m.

Ryan, The VMWare player is the best starting point. Just download and install the player, then get an image from somewhere (you can find a plethora of them on the VMWare web site). After downloading the image, its as simple as double clicking on the file in explorer or launching it via the start menu. Bryce Ryan Krauss wrote:

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What is the easiet way to get started with VMWare with windows as the host operating system? Do I need just VMware player? Do I need some Ubuntu kernel or image or something?

Ryan

On 5/27/07, Andrew Straw wrote:

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Charles R Harris wrote:

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On 5/24/07, *Ryan Krauss* mailto:ryanlists@gmail.com> wrote:

I am trying to use Numpy/Scipy for a class I am teaching this summer. I have one student running Vista. Is there an installer that works for Vista? Running the exe file from webpage gives errors about not being able to create various folders and files. I think this is from Vista being very restrictive about which files and folders are writable. Is anyone out there running Numpy/Scipy in Vista? If so, how did you get it to work?

Install Ubuntu? ;) I've heard nothing but complaints and nasty words from co-workers stuck with new computers and trying to use Vista as a development platform for scientific work.

Just a follow-up, vmware is now given away and Ubuntu has always been free, and I guess most computers with Vista have native support for virtualization. So, this way you could run Ubuntu and Vista simultaneously without a speed loss on either or partitioning the drive. Of course, if it were me I'd put Ubuntu as the host OS and probably never boot the guest OS. ;) _______________________________________________ Numpy-discussion mailing list Numpy-discussion@scipy.org http://projects.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion

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Ryan Krauss

1:56 a.m.

It appears that the free VMware player can't just read an iso. Where can I get a good Ubuntu virtual appliance? On 5/28/07, Bryce Hendrix wrote:

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Ryan,

The VMWare player is the best starting point. Just download and install the player, then get an image from somewhere (you can find a plethora of them on the VMWare web site). After downloading the image, its as simple as double clicking on the file in explorer or launching it via the start menu.

Bryce

Ryan Krauss wrote: What is the easiet way to get started with VMWare with windows as the host operating system? Do I need just VMware player? Do I need some Ubuntu kernel or image or something?

Ryan

On 5/27/07, Andrew Straw wrote:

Charles R Harris wrote:

On 5/24/07, *Ryan Krauss* mailto:ryanlists@gmail.com> wrote:

I am trying to use Numpy/Scipy for a class I am teaching this summer. I have one student running Vista. Is there an installer that works for Vista? Running the exe file from webpage gives errors about not being able to create various folders and files. I think this is from Vista being very restrictive about which files and folders are writable. Is anyone out there running Numpy/Scipy in Vista? If so, how did you get it to work?

Install Ubuntu? ;) I've heard nothing but complaints and nasty words from co-workers stuck with new computers and trying to use Vista as a development platform for scientific work.

Just a follow-up, vmware is now given away and Ubuntu has always been free, and I guess most computers with Vista have native support for virtualization. So, this way you could run Ubuntu and Vista simultaneously without a speed loss on either or partitioning the drive. Of course, if it were me I'd put Ubuntu as the host OS and probably never boot the guest OS. ;) _______________________________________________ Numpy-discussion mailing list Numpy-discussion@scipy.org http://projects.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion

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Bill Baxter

2:11 a.m.

On 5/29/07, Ryan Krauss wrote:

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It appears that the free VMware player can't just read an iso. Where can I get a good Ubuntu virtual appliance?

The 'image' you're looking for is not an iso, it's a special VMWare image. Try this one: http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/ubuntu.html --bb

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On 5/28/07, Bryce Hendrix wrote:

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Ryan,

The VMWare player is the best starting point. Just download and install the player, then get an image from somewhere (you can find a plethora of them on the VMWare web site). After downloading the image, its as simple as double clicking on the file in explorer or launching it via the start menu.

Bryce

Ryan Krauss wrote: What is the easiet way to get started with VMWare with windows as the host operating system? Do I need just VMware player? Do I need some Ubuntu kernel or image or something?

Ryan

On 5/27/07, Andrew Straw wrote:

Charles R Harris wrote:

On 5/24/07, *Ryan Krauss* mailto:ryanlists@gmail.com> wrote:

I am trying to use Numpy/Scipy for a class I am teaching this summer. I have one student running Vista. Is there an installer that works for Vista? Running the exe file from webpage gives errors about not being able to create various folders and files. I think this is from Vista being very restrictive about which files and folders are writable. Is anyone out there running Numpy/Scipy in Vista? If so, how did you get it to work?

Install Ubuntu? ;) I've heard nothing but complaints and nasty words from co-workers stuck with new computers and trying to use Vista as a development platform for scientific work.

Just a follow-up, vmware is now given away and Ubuntu has always been free, and I guess most computers with Vista have native support for virtualization. So, this way you could run Ubuntu and Vista simultaneously without a speed loss on either or partitioning the drive. Of course, if it were me I'd put Ubuntu as the host OS and probably never boot the guest OS. ;) _______________________________________________ Numpy-discussion mailing list Numpy-discussion@scipy.org http://projects.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion

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Ryan Krauss

2:16 a.m.

Thanks Bill. I saw that one, but it looks like it is only for 64bit AMD processors. I will download that one and try it out just to get a feel for how it works, but I was looking for a 32bit i386 to be a general as possible. Ryan On 5/28/07, Bill Baxter wrote:

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On 5/29/07, Ryan Krauss wrote:

...
It appears that the free VMware player can't just read an iso. Where can I get a good Ubuntu virtual appliance?

The 'image' you're looking for is not an iso, it's a special VMWare image. Try this one: http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/ubuntu.html

--bb

...
On 5/28/07, Bryce Hendrix wrote:

...
Ryan,

The VMWare player is the best starting point. Just download and install the player, then get an image from somewhere (you can find a plethora of them on the VMWare web site). After downloading the image, its as simple as double clicking on the file in explorer or launching it via the start menu.

Bryce

Ryan Krauss wrote: What is the easiet way to get started with VMWare with windows as the host operating system? Do I need just VMware player? Do I need some Ubuntu kernel or image or something?

Ryan

On 5/27/07, Andrew Straw wrote:

Charles R Harris wrote:

On 5/24/07, *Ryan Krauss* mailto:ryanlists@gmail.com> wrote:

I am trying to use Numpy/Scipy for a class I am teaching this summer. I have one student running Vista. Is there an installer that works for Vista? Running the exe file from webpage gives errors about not being able to create various folders and files. I think this is from Vista being very restrictive about which files and folders are writable. Is anyone out there running Numpy/Scipy in Vista? If so, how did you get it to work?

Install Ubuntu? ;) I've heard nothing but complaints and nasty words from co-workers stuck with new computers and trying to use Vista as a development platform for scientific work.

Just a follow-up, vmware is now given away and Ubuntu has always been free, and I guess most computers with Vista have native support for virtualization. So, this way you could run Ubuntu and Vista simultaneously without a speed loss on either or partitioning the drive. Of course, if it were me I'd put Ubuntu as the host OS and probably never boot the guest OS. ;) _______________________________________________ Numpy-discussion mailing list Numpy-discussion@scipy.org http://projects.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion

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Bill Baxter

2:21 a.m.

No, there's a link in the middle of the page that says "ALSO available for AMD 64bit", but the link you're looking for is in the upper right corner of the page, and is for Intel 32: http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/scripts/va-stats/appliance-redirect.php?nid=595&target=http%3A%2F%2Fisv-image.ubuntu.com%2Fvmware%2FUbuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.zip --bb On 5/29/07, Ryan Krauss wrote:

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Thanks Bill. I saw that one, but it looks like it is only for 64bit AMD processors. I will download that one and try it out just to get a feel for how it works, but I was looking for a 32bit i386 to be a general as possible.

Ryan Krauss

2:45 a.m.

Thanks again. I guess I just read that wrong. On 5/28/07, Bill Baxter wrote:

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No, there's a link in the middle of the page that says "ALSO available for AMD 64bit", but the link you're looking for is in the upper right corner of the page, and is for Intel 32: http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/scripts/va-stats/appliance-redirect.php?nid=595&target=http%3A%2F%2Fisv-image.ubuntu.com%2Fvmware%2FUbuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.zip

--bb

On 5/29/07, Ryan Krauss wrote:

...
Thanks Bill. I saw that one, but it looks like it is only for 64bit AMD processors. I will download that one and try it out just to get a feel for how it works, but I was looking for a 32bit i386 to be a general as possible.

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Ryan Krauss

4:11 a.m.

I have this more or less working, the only problem is that my guest Ubuntu OS doesn't have Scipy/Numpy/IPython and I can't get basic networking. So, I can't install anything. Does anyone have a VMWare virtual appliance with Scipy/Numpy/IPython/Matplotlib already installed? I posted a question to the VMWare forum about networking, but will welcome any help from here. Thanks, Ryan On 5/28/07, Ryan Krauss wrote:

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Thanks again. I guess I just read that wrong.

On 5/28/07, Bill Baxter wrote:

...
No, there's a link in the middle of the page that says "ALSO available for AMD 64bit", but the link you're looking for is in the upper right corner of the page, and is for Intel 32: http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/scripts/va-stats/appliance-redirect.php?nid=595&target=http%3A%2F%2Fisv-image.ubuntu.com%2Fvmware%2FUbuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.zip

--bb

On 5/29/07, Ryan Krauss wrote:

...
Thanks Bill. I saw that one, but it looks like it is only for 64bit AMD processors. I will download that one and try it out just to get a feel for how it works, but I was looking for a 32bit i386 to be a general as possible.

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David Cournapeau

4:06 a.m.

Ryan Krauss wrote:

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I have this more or less working, the only problem is that my guest Ubuntu OS doesn't have Scipy/Numpy/IPython and I can't get basic networking. So, I can't install anything. Does anyone have a VMWare virtual appliance with Scipy/Numpy/IPython/Matplotlib already installed?

I posted a question to the VMWare forum about networking, but will welcome any help from here.

I use vmware to test various packages: it is a barebone version (only command line), dunno if this is of any interest for you ? David

Ryan Krauss

4:26 a.m.

I need to plot things using matplotlib, so I don't think it works for me without X. Thanks though. Ryan On 5/28/07, David Cournapeau wrote:

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Ryan Krauss wrote:

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I have this more or less working, the only problem is that my guest Ubuntu OS doesn't have Scipy/Numpy/IPython and I can't get basic networking. So, I can't install anything. Does anyone have a VMWare virtual appliance with Scipy/Numpy/IPython/Matplotlib already installed?

I posted a question to the VMWare forum about networking, but will welcome any help from here.

I use vmware to test various packages: it is a barebone version (only command line), dunno if this is of any interest for you ?

David _______________________________________________ Numpy-discussion mailing list Numpy-discussion@scipy.org http://projects.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion

David Cournapeau

4:30 a.m.

Ryan Krauss wrote:

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I need to plot things using matplotlib, so I don't think it works for me without X.

This is becoming OT, but maybe it would be easier to solve your network problem ? You can contact me privately if you have network problems with ubuntu, This makes me think that having a ubuntu (or whatever distribution) appliance with scipy and co would be a pretty good thing to have available for promoting scipy... David

Andrew Straw

4:39 a.m.

Hi Ryan, I use VMware server on my linux box to host several more linux images. I will see if I can whip you up a Ubuntu Feisty i386 image with the "big 4" - numpy/scipy/matplotlib/ipython. If I understand their docs correctly, I have "virtual appliances" for previously existing images already... If it's that easy, this should take just a few minutes. I'll see what I can do and post the results. -Andrew Ryan Krauss wrote:

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I need to plot things using matplotlib, so I don't think it works for me without X.

Thanks though.

Ryan

On 5/28/07, David Cournapeau wrote:

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Ryan Krauss wrote:

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I have this more or less working, the only problem is that my guest Ubuntu OS doesn't have Scipy/Numpy/IPython and I can't get basic networking. So, I can't install anything. Does anyone have a VMWare virtual appliance with Scipy/Numpy/IPython/Matplotlib already installed?

I posted a question to the VMWare forum about networking, but will welcome any help from here.

I use vmware to test various packages: it is a barebone version (only command line), dunno if this is of any interest for you ?

David _______________________________________________ Numpy-discussion mailing list Numpy-discussion@scipy.org http://projects.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion

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Andrew Straw

6:10 a.m.

OK, I have placed an Ubuntu 7.04 image with stock numpy, scipy, matplotlib, and ipython at http://mosca.caltech.edu/outgoing/Ubuntu%207.04%20for%20scientific%20computi... The md5sum is 4191e13abda1154c94e685ffdc0f829b. Note: I haven't tested this at all on any computer other than the one which I created the virtual appliance on. I'm posting now because it will take me a while to download the file (it's 1 GB) in order to test. -Andrew Andrew Straw wrote:

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Hi Ryan,

I use VMware server on my linux box to host several more linux images. I will see if I can whip you up a Ubuntu Feisty i386 image with the "big 4" - numpy/scipy/matplotlib/ipython. If I understand their docs correctly, I have "virtual appliances" for previously existing images already... If it's that easy, this should take just a few minutes. I'll see what I can do and post the results.

-Andrew

Ryan Krauss wrote:

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I need to plot things using matplotlib, so I don't think it works for me without X.

Thanks though.

Ryan

On 5/28/07, David Cournapeau wrote:

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Ryan Krauss wrote:

...
I have this more or less working, the only problem is that my guest Ubuntu OS doesn't have Scipy/Numpy/IPython and I can't get basic networking. So, I can't install anything. Does anyone have a VMWare virtual appliance with Scipy/Numpy/IPython/Matplotlib already installed?

I posted a question to the VMWare forum about networking, but will welcome any help from here.

I use vmware to test various packages: it is a barebone version (only command line), dunno if this is of any interest for you ?

David _______________________________________________ Numpy-discussion mailing list Numpy-discussion@scipy.org http://projects.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion

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Andrew Straw

7:24 a.m.

Andrew Straw wrote:

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OK, I have placed an Ubuntu 7.04 image with stock numpy, scipy, matplotlib, and ipython at http://mosca.caltech.edu/outgoing/Ubuntu%207.04%20for%20scientific%20computi...

The md5sum is 4191e13abda1154c94e685ffdc0f829b.

Note: I haven't tested this at all on any computer other than the one which I created the virtual appliance on. I'm posting now because it will take me a while to download the file (it's 1 GB) in order to test.

...

-Andrew

Andrew Straw wrote:

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Hi Ryan,

I use VMware server on my linux box to host several more linux images. I will see if I can whip you up a Ubuntu Feisty i386 image with

After downloading the 1GB, it does seems to work on my laptop. (On a Mac running VMware Fusion, even! Sweet! I thought this job would require booting my desktop.) The username is "ubuntu" and the password is "abc123". I set the network up to share the host's interface with NAT. Hmm, as David suggests, this might be a pretty good way to make an easy-to-try scipy environment, particularly for Windows users. I'm happy to continue to (allow Caltech to) host this, but also happy if we move it, or an improved version, somewhere else. For example, I could imagine wanting auto login turned on and some kind of icon on the desktop that says "click here for interactive python prompt". -Andrew the "big 4" - numpy/scipy/matplotlib/ipython. If I understand their docs correctly, I have "virtual appliances" for previously existing images already... If it's that easy, this should take just a few minutes. I'll see what I can do and post the results.

...

...
-Andrew

Ryan Krauss wrote:

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I need to plot things using matplotlib, so I don't think it works for me without X.

Thanks though.

Ryan

On 5/28/07, David Cournapeau wrote:

...
Ryan Krauss wrote:

...
I have this more or less working, the only problem is that my guest Ubuntu OS doesn't have Scipy/Numpy/IPython and I can't get basic networking. So, I can't install anything. Does anyone have a VMWare virtual appliance with Scipy/Numpy/IPython/Matplotlib already installed?

I posted a question to the VMWare forum about networking, but will welcome any help from here.

I use vmware to test various packages: it is a barebone version (only command line), dunno if this is of any interest for you ?

David _______________________________________________ Numpy-discussion mailing list Numpy-discussion@scipy.org http://projects.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion

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