Python officially qualifies for free Discourse hosting
I was reading an interview with John Atwood and it reminded me Discourse's offer for free hosting to open source projects ( https://blog.discourse.org/2016/03/free-discourse-forum-hosting-for-communit...). With the cpython repo at over 7,500 stars we now surpass their minimum requirements to get free hosting if we so desire.
Do we have a sense of the long-term viability of Discourse as a company? I'd hate to move all our discussions there and then in a few years find that all our permalinks are dead. :-( I'm not worried about that for e.g. GitHub, but I don't know about Discourse. (They can offer to migrate our data, but the permalinks are very important for all sorts of important code maintenance work. We regularly see questions on python-dev about the reasoning behind decades-old commits.) On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Brett Cannon <brett@python.org> wrote:
I was reading an interview with John Atwood and it reminded me Discourse's offer for free hosting to open source projects ( https://blog.discourse.org/2016/03/free-discourse-forum- hosting-for-community-friendly-github-projects/). With the cpython repo at over 7,500 stars we now surpass their minimum requirements to get free hosting if we so desire.
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It doesn’t matter, we could host it ourselves if they went under and they let you use a domain like discourse.python.org <http://discourse.python.org/> (it has to be discourse.<whatever> for the free offer) so the links would all be inbound to a domain we control.
On May 2, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Guido van Rossum <guido@python.org> wrote:
Do we have a sense of the long-term viability of Discourse as a company? I'd hate to move all our discussions there and then in a few years find that all our permalinks are dead. :-( I'm not worried about that for e.g. GitHub, but I don't know about Discourse.
(They can offer to migrate our data, but the permalinks are very important for all sorts of important code maintenance work. We regularly see questions on python-dev about the reasoning behind decades-old commits.)
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Brett Cannon <brett@python.org <mailto:brett@python.org>> wrote: I was reading an interview with John Atwood and it reminded me Discourse's offer for free hosting to open source projects (https://blog.discourse.org/2016/03/free-discourse-forum-hosting-for-communit... <https://blog.discourse.org/2016/03/free-discourse-forum-hosting-for-communit...>). With the cpython repo at over 7,500 stars we now surpass their minimum requirements to get free hosting if we so desire.
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OK, that sounds good. Though the "free" offer sounds like it's not really free, as they are essentially expecting endorsement as payment. Is the PSF in dire enough financial straits to do this? (Because I actually have no idea how well Discourse will hold up when we hit it hard -- for all I know at scale it could be worse than GitHub code reviews.) On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Donald Stufft <donald@stufft.io> wrote:
It doesn’t matter, we could host it ourselves if they went under and they let you use a domain like discourse.python.org (it has to be discourse.<whatever> for the free offer) so the links would all be inbound to a domain we control.
On May 2, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Guido van Rossum <guido@python.org> wrote:
Do we have a sense of the long-term viability of Discourse as a company? I'd hate to move all our discussions there and then in a few years find that all our permalinks are dead. :-( I'm not worried about that for e.g. GitHub, but I don't know about Discourse.
(They can offer to migrate our data, but the permalinks are very important for all sorts of important code maintenance work. We regularly see questions on python-dev about the reasoning behind decades-old commits.)
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Brett Cannon <brett@python.org> wrote:
I was reading an interview with John Atwood and it reminded me Discourse's offer for free hosting to open source projects ( https://blog.discourse.org/2016/03/free-discourse-forum-hos ting-for-community-friendly-github-projects/). With the cpython repo at over 7,500 stars we now surpass their minimum requirements to get free hosting if we so desire.
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Yea, some sort of exposure is the typical ask for folks giving an in kind “donation”. I have no idea what the PSF financials look like, nor do I know if the free plan (equiv to “Standard”) is enough for us or not. It’s entirely likely we might be too large for the free plan anyways (only 100k page views per month, not sure what is normal for the mailing lists though or how to compare that to what discourse would use). Of course if we paid for it then we could host it as discuss.python.org <http://discuss.python.org/> or any other domain we wanted.
On May 2, 2017, at 2:25 PM, Guido van Rossum <guido@python.org> wrote:
OK, that sounds good. Though the "free" offer sounds like it's not really free, as they are essentially expecting endorsement as payment. Is the PSF in dire enough financial straits to do this? (Because I actually have no idea how well Discourse will hold up when we hit it hard -- for all I know at scale it could be worse than GitHub code reviews.)
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Donald Stufft <donald@stufft.io <mailto:donald@stufft.io>> wrote: It doesn’t matter, we could host it ourselves if they went under and they let you use a domain like discourse.python.org <http://discourse.python.org/> (it has to be discourse.<whatever> for the free offer) so the links would all be inbound to a domain we control.
On May 2, 2017, at 2:20 PM, Guido van Rossum <guido@python.org <mailto:guido@python.org>> wrote:
Do we have a sense of the long-term viability of Discourse as a company? I'd hate to move all our discussions there and then in a few years find that all our permalinks are dead. :-( I'm not worried about that for e.g. GitHub, but I don't know about Discourse.
(They can offer to migrate our data, but the permalinks are very important for all sorts of important code maintenance work. We regularly see questions on python-dev about the reasoning behind decades-old commits.)
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Brett Cannon <brett@python.org <mailto:brett@python.org>> wrote: I was reading an interview with John Atwood and it reminded me Discourse's offer for free hosting to open source projects (https://blog.discourse.org/2016/03/free-discourse-forum-hosting-for-communit... <https://blog.discourse.org/2016/03/free-discourse-forum-hosting-for-communit...>). With the cpython repo at over 7,500 stars we now surpass their minimum requirements to get free hosting if we so desire.
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— Donald Stufft
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— Donald Stufft
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