End Of life: Christoph Gohlke, Unofficcial Windows Binaries for Python Extension Packages
Hi dear PSF coMembers, Christoph Gohlkes Windows Binaries are nearing end of Life https://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/ ============================== Updated on 12 June 2022 at 20:19 UTC. *Funding for the Laboratory for Fluorescence Dynamics has ceased. This service will be discontinued before July 2022.* ============================== those packages proved quite valuable for Python on Windows users without C-Compiler (many) or not enough build-knowledge to build their packages (even more) Is there at least a chance of conserving what is there on PSF level? Cheers Harald -- GHUM GmbH Harald Armin Massa Spielberger Straße 49 70435 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 Amtsgericht Stuttgart, HRB 734971 GF: Harald Armin Massa
Would it also be appropriate to nominate Cristoph for a Fellowship and/or community service award? Kind regards, Steve On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 11:22 AM Massa, Harald Armin <chef@ghum.de> wrote:
Hi dear PSF coMembers,
Christoph Gohlkes Windows Binaries are nearing end of Life
https://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/
============================== Updated on 12 June 2022 at 20:19 UTC.
*Funding for the Laboratory for Fluorescence Dynamics has ceased. This service will be discontinued before July 2022.* ==============================
those packages proved quite valuable for Python on Windows users without C-Compiler (many) or not enough build-knowledge to build their packages (even more) Is there at least a chance of conserving what is there on PSF level?
Cheers
Harald
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On 15.06.2022 13:18, Steve Holden wrote:
Would it also be appropriate to nominate Cristoph for a Fellowship and/or community service award?
+1 Regarding the service of providing prebuilt wheels for Windows, it would be great to have this available in a similar way to what Ben Nuttall and Dave Jones are doing with piwheels for the RaspberryPi: https://www.piwheels.org/ https://github.com/piwheels/piwheels Provided someone steps up to build and run such a website, I'm sure the PSF would love to provide funds to back it up or find sponsors willing to support it.
Kind regards, Steve
On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 11:22 AM Massa, Harald Armin <chef@ghum.de <mailto:chef@ghum.de>> wrote:
Hi dear PSF coMembers,
Christoph Gohlkes Windows Binaries are nearing end of Life
https://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/
============================== Updated on 12 June 2022 at 20:19 UTC.
*Funding for the Laboratory for Fluorescence Dynamics has ceased. This service will be discontinued before July 2022. *==============================* *
those packages proved quite valuable for Python on Windows users without C-Compiler (many) or not enough build-knowledge to build their packages (even more)
Is there at least a chance of conserving what is there on PSF level?
Cheers
Harald
--
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Don't most well-maintained packages provide their own Windows binaries nowadays? Le 15/06/2022 à 13:29, Marc-Andre Lemburg a écrit :
On 15.06.2022 13:18, Steve Holden wrote:
Would it also be appropriate to nominate Cristoph for a Fellowship and/or community service award?
+1
Regarding the service of providing prebuilt wheels for Windows, it would be great to have this available in a similar way to what Ben Nuttall and Dave Jones are doing with piwheels for the RaspberryPi:
https://www.piwheels.org/ https://github.com/piwheels/piwheels
Provided someone steps up to build and run such a website, I'm sure the PSF would love to provide funds to back it up or find sponsors willing to support it.
Kind regards, Steve
On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 11:22 AM Massa, Harald Armin <chef@ghum.de <mailto:chef@ghum.de>> wrote:
Hi dear PSF coMembers,
Christoph Gohlkes Windows Binaries are nearing end of Life
https://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/
============================== Updated on 12 June 2022 at 20:19 UTC.
*Funding for the Laboratory for Fluorescence Dynamics has ceased. This service will be discontinued before July 2022. *==============================* *
those packages proved quite valuable for Python on Windows users without C-Compiler (many) or not enough build-knowledge to build their packages (even more)
Is there at least a chance of conserving what is there on PSF level?
Cheers
Harald
--
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 at 15:47, Antoine Pitrou <antoine@python.org> wrote:
Don't most well-maintained packages provide their own Windows binaries nowadays?
This will probably be true for mainstream packages dealing with mainstream stuff like web, cloud, containers and maybe mainstream databases. At the same time there is a large number of packages dealing with highly specific stuff; many of them bindings to very specialized libraries. Those may not be "well maintained" in the OPs kind of thinking, but well needed by those who need those very specialized things.
On 15.06.2022 13:18, Steve Holden wrote:
Would it also be appropriate to nominate Cristoph for a Fellowship and/or community service award?
+1
Regarding the service of providing prebuilt wheels for Windows, it would be great to have this available in a similar way to what Ben Nuttall and Dave Jones are doing with piwheels for the RaspberryPi:
https://www.piwheels.org/ https://github.com/piwheels/piwheels
Provided someone steps up to build and run such a website, I'm sure the PSF would love to provide funds to back it up or find sponsors willing to support it.
Kind regards, Steve
On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 11:22 AM Massa, Harald Armin <chef@ghum.de <mailto:chef@ghum.de>> wrote:
Hi dear PSF coMembers,
Christoph Gohlkes Windows Binaries are nearing end of Life
https://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/
============================== Updated on 12 June 2022 at 20:19 UTC.
*Funding for the Laboratory for Fluorescence Dynamics has ceased. This service will be discontinued before July 2022. *==============================* *
those packages proved quite valuable for Python on Windows users without C-Compiler (many) or not enough build-knowledge to build their
Le 15/06/2022 à 13:29, Marc-Andre Lemburg a écrit : packages
(even more)
Is there at least a chance of conserving what is there on PSF
level?
Cheers
Harald
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Marc-Andre Lemburg <mal@egenix.com> 於 2022年6月15日 週三 晚上7:30寫道：
On 15.06.2022 13:18, Steve Holden wrote:
Would it also be appropriate to nominate Cristoph for a Fellowship and/or community service award?
+1
Regarding the service of providing prebuilt wheels for Windows, it would be great to have this available in a similar way to what Ben Nuttall and Dave Jones are doing with piwheels for the RaspberryPi:
https://www.piwheels.org/ https://github.com/piwheels/piwheels
Provided someone steps up to build and run such a website, I'm sure the PSF would love to provide funds to back it up or find sponsors willing to support it.
I think we need to define the scope first. What does “conserving” (using the initial post’s terminology) mean here? If we only aim to conserve the page as-is, a static HTML page with links and some CDN storage would be sufficient. Something like piwheels is only needed if we intend to continue Gohlkes’s work, i.e. build and serve packages when new versions become available, which would be a much larger project, and likely need to involve the Laboratory for Fluorescence Dynamics so we can replicate their existing build environments. TP
Kind regards, Steve
On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 11:22 AM Massa, Harald Armin <chef@ghum.de <mailto:chef@ghum.de>> wrote:
Hi dear PSF coMembers,
Christoph Gohlkes Windows Binaries are nearing end of Life
https://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/
============================== Updated on 12 June 2022 at 20:19 UTC.
*Funding for the Laboratory for Fluorescence Dynamics has ceased. This service will be discontinued before July 2022. *==============================* *
those packages proved quite valuable for Python on Windows users without C-Compiler (many) or not enough build-knowledge to build their packages (even more)
Is there at least a chance of conserving what is there on PSF level?
Cheers
Harald
--
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I think we need to define the scope first. What does “conserving” (using the initial post’s terminology) mean here? If we only aim to conserve the page as-is, a static HTML page with links and some CDN storage would be sufficient. Something like piwheels is only needed if we intend to continue Gohlkes’s work, i.e. build and serve packages when new versions become available, which would be a much larger project, and likely need to involve the Laboratory for Fluorescence Dynamics so we can replicate their existing build environments.
Scope can be 3 levels, depending on what ressources PSF decides to invest
into this: a) minimum - archive ALL THE FILEs. required: a1) Contact to Christoph as "we are the PSF and would like to preserve those things, may we mirror them" a2) enough space to store this a3) a big copy command b) preserve the build environment That is a) plus "Hey Christoph, are you willing to upload your build-environment to the storage we provide?" c) keep it running - that needs resources to automate the build environment, monitor the results... As Christoph states, before July all is over. So, doing a) and b) will at least buy time and keep the options open. I would dream that the board could initiate a) and b) now, and have a discussion if and how to do c) Cheers Harald -- GHUM GmbH Harald Armin Massa Spielberger Straße 49 70435 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 Amtsgericht Stuttgart, HRB 734971 GF: Harald Armin Massa
https://pyfound.blogspot.com/2019/08/python-software-foundation-fellow.html They're already a PSF fellow. :) On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 5:29 PM Vinay Sajip via PSF-Community < psf-community@python.org> wrote:
On Wednesday, 15 June 2022 at 12:20:33 BST, Steve Holden < steve@holdenweb.com> wrote:
Would it also be appropriate to nominate Cristoph for a Fellowship and/or community service award?
+1 _______________________________________________ PSF-Community mailing list -- psf-community@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to psf-community-leave@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/psf-community.python.org/ Member address: pradyunsg@gmail.com
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