Am 04.04.2016 um 17:36 schrieb Brandon Rhodes <pycon.brandon@gmail.com>:And, the big question: which of us is going to spring for the sign? :)
http://www.mysecuritysign.com/quiet-zone-sign/sku-k-9947On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Ewa Jodlowska <ewa@python.org> wrote:Hobson's idea is a great one and I do like that type of "live" monitoring. TBH, in the last few years a lot of the open space has gone unused :(When I booked Portland's contract, we added in a 6th breakout room because in Santa Clara we were doing 6 tracks instead of the now-norm of 5 tracks.I do have a huge room that I have left off from use - it was free for us and the convention center cannot do much with it because we are occupying almost the entire building. If you like, we can setup some rounds in there - maybe 10 rounds of 8 chairs - and reserve it for quiet space. It is only available May 30 - June 1. On the large schedule by registration - I would just add "Quiet room is Portland Ballroom xxx" instead of allowing people to place cards down at various times.Let me know how you would like to proceed.On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 6:28 AM, Anna Ossowski <ossanna16@gmx.de> wrote:The idea with the reservation cards for a Quiet Open Space and adjusting them as rooms fill up is excellent. Thank you, Hobson!Warm regards,Anna
Am 04.04.2016 um 13:14 schrieb Hobson Lane <hobsonlane@gmail.com>:+1 for quiet spaces. Like white space in graphic design, it's invisible and often indispensable. For myself, I've often found quiet among the unused Open Space rooms, tutorial rooms, or even semi-private corners of the booth spaces. But I can understand how having a dedicated location for quiet could be vital for many people. Just the knowledge that it's there can be reassuring to speakers with stage fright or new conference attendees that feel overwhelmed.Might it work to reserve a Quiet Open Space room with reservation cards, and then, during the conference, consider taking down a few reservation cards if the other rooms are getting close to 100% utilized? Especially if the quiet space isn't getting comparable usage. Basically the Open Space coordinators could adapt to the usage trends in real time. And since Quiet has at least 2 advocates on the OS committee, I think they'd not get squeezed off the schedule.On Mon, Apr 4, 2016, 3:40 AM Anna Ossowski <ossanna16@gmx.de> wrote:Thank you, Brandon! :)
Just to add a little more information: We had a quiet room at DjangoCon US last year which also functioned as the speaker lounge and it was very much appreciated not only by speakers but also by others who just needed some quiet time for a few minutes. At DjangoCon US the convention center was directly connected to the conference hotel and about 50% of people still seemed to prefer using the quiet room instead of retreating back to their hotel room. At DjangoCon Europe, which I just returned from yesterday, they also had a quiet room which doubled as the speaker room. Besides speakers I saw mothers nursing their babies in there, people who just needed a short break, and people who needed to concentrate in order to get some work done.The big difference between a public area for people to sit down and relax and a quiet room is simply that a quiet room allows you to close the door behind you and that people who enter the room know it’s an area where people want to be left in quiet for however long they decide to stay in there whereas in a public sitting area people come by and want to chat so it doesn’t have the same effect.I just checked the distance between the conference center and me and Kinga’s hotel, which seems to be a 7 minute walk so for us it would be no big deal to walk over to our room, spend some quiet time there, and come back to the hotel, we could probably do this within an hour. Other hotels however might be further away and I know quite a few people who are staying at AirBnBs so for them to get back to their accommodations would take significantly longer.
For me at each conference there comes a time where I hit my „people limit“ and need to retreat to a quiet space as soon as possible and I know a lot of people who feel the same way so I do believe that a designated quiet room at PyCon would be an excellent idea and very much appreciated by a lot of attendees.If there are not other rooms, would be it be possible to turn one of the Open Spaces rooms into a quiet room? I know this is not an ideal solution but having a quiet room would be important to me so it might be worth going that route.Thank you, Brandon and Ewa!Warm regards,Anna_______________________________________________Am 03.04.2016 um 18:50 schrieb Brandon Rhodes <pycon.brandon@gmail.com>:Let’s ask Ewa! :)Ewa, has PyCon in the past ever had a quiet room? Though Anna does not think that a quiet room would quite fit the mission of the Open Spaces rooms, she raises the point that hotels are quite far away this year for many attendees, and that she has seen quiet rooms be very much appreciated at other conferences.My impression, though, is that during the three main conference days we are fully occupying every single room that the Conference Center has ceded to us, and that we have none left to allocate. Is that correct — that if 2016 is to have a quiet room at all, that allocating an Open Space room is our only way there?On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 2:49 AM, Anna Ossowski <ossanna16@gmx.de> wrote:Hello Brandon,I am surprised that there will be no quiet room at PyCon. When a conference had a quiet room I always really appreciated it and I think it is important. There was a quiet room at DjangoCon Europe and it was used for people just needing to take a break to get work done, nursing mothers, and people like me who get overwhelmed sometimes and just needed to step away for half an hour. I talked to a few people here at DjangoCon Europe about the need of a quiet room and they were all really surprised too that PyCon is not planning on having one as they all think it’s important and would be appreciated. Retreating back to your hotel when you just need 30 minutes in quiet is often inconvenient and public seating areas are not the same as a dedicated quiet room with a door that you can shut.Is there any way a quiet room could be arranged? If not, I do think that offering one of the Open Spaces rooms as a quiet room would be a good idea. Some people here at DjangoCon Europe mentioned that if there was no quiet room at PyCon they would be willing to go ahead and block an Open Spaces room for that purpose.Thank you!Anna
Am 31.03.2016 um 14:57 schrieb Brandon Rhodes <pycon.brandon@gmail.com>:Yes, thank you, Kinga!I agree, Anna, that childcare, Portland tours, and a quiet space are not a good fit and could be usefully removed from the list. Most people retreat to their hotels for quiet; there will additionally be seating areas in the venue where people can sit with laptops; and one of the big round tables out in the public area could be used for coordinating visits to Portland things.On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 4:17 AM, Anna Ossowski <ossanna16@gmx.de> wrote:Thank you Kinga for compiling this list!If no one has to add anything to it we can add it to the PyCon website next week.I think child care and quiet rooms are important but they don’t fit into the scope of the open spaces. There will be child care at PyCon. I’m not sure if there will be something like a quiet room but it would be a good idea to have one. i’m just not sure that blocking an open spaces room for 3 days to use it as a quiet room is the best idea. There will also most likely be something like an „explore Portland“ program so I’m not sure if an open space like that would be necessary or make a whole lot of sense but I don’t have anything against it.Warm regards,Anna
Am 30.03.2016 um 11:04 schrieb Kinga Kięczkowska <k.kieczkowska@gmail.com>:_______________________________________________Hello everyone,I compiled a list of ideas for open spaces topics, based on what we already had, what was done last year, and what people suggested on Twitter. You can find it in this document:If you have any suggestions / more ideas, please feel free to contribute. I'd also love your feedback on the childcare and quiet rooms, and the space for people to organise tours of Portland - would we want something like that?Cheers,Kinga
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