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Removing /moin/ suffix from wiki.python.org (Was: Internal Server Error while reverting spam)
by anatoly techtonik Jan. 31, 2012

Jan. 31, 2012

On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Radomir Dopieralski <sheep(a)sheep.art.pl>wrote: > > On Dec 2, 2011 11:07 AM, "M.-A. Lemburg" <mal(a)egenix.com> wrote: > > > > Radomir Dopieralski wrote: > > > On Dec 2, 2011 10:12 AM, "M.-A. Lemburg" <mal(a)egenix.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> Paul Boddie wrote: > > >>> On Friday 02 December 2011 03:00:29 skip(a)pobox.com wrote: > > >>>> anatoly> And it could be a little easier to type > > >>>> wiki.python.org/MelbournePUG if mysterious somebody > > >>>> anatoly> could adjust web-server configuration accordingly. > > >>>> > > >>>> There's another layer in the URL which distinguishes the Python and > > >>>> Jython wikis. At least there used to be. Now I see the selector > page > > >>>> briefly, then it redirects me to the last page I was viewing on the > > >>>> Python wiki. > > >>> > > >>> Yes, I think there was a discussion about this: in principle, it > makes > > >>> sense to eliminate the "/moin" part, and I guess that this was > changed. > > >>> I must admit that I haven't been following this list for some time, > so I'm > > >>> sorry if I'm not up-to-date with what people have been doing. > > >> > > >> The /moin part is still there and AFAIK is needed, since there are > > >> several instances of moin running on the wiki.python.org domain: > > >> > > >> * Python wiki > > >> * Jython wiki > > >> * PSF wiki > > >> > > >> and perhaps more. > > > > > > That's not a problem, those urls can be made to work just fine as > > > exceptions. I can write apropriate rules if there is a decission to > make > > > the change. > > > > Could you elaborate a bit ? What are those "exceptions" ? > > It's not a technical term, I meant it literally. Basically you can > configure the web server so that the urls of those other wikis lead to the > respective applications, while all other urls lead to the default python > wiki. I think it doesn't even require rewrite rules, as scriptalias > directives are evaluated in order of occurence. We would of course still > have a redirect from the old /moin url. > If there are no objections, I would say - Radomir, go for it. =) To summarize what do we want to do and how it will behave after the migration: * wiki.python.org/PageName - is a new shorter way of accessing Python knowledge base * wiki.jython.org/PageName - is a new shorter way to access Jython pages * wiki.python.org/moin/(.*)$ - will be a permanent redirect to wiki.python.org/\1 to save external links from breaking * wiki.python.org/jython/(.*)$ - the same to wiki.jython.org/\1

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New Members to Membership Roster Web Page – Please Add
by Pat Campbell Jan. 24, 2012

Jan. 24, 2012

Hi Pydotorg Team: Please add the July 2011 new members to the members’ web page at http://www.python.org/psf/members/ *July 2011 - New Nominated Members:* Giovanni Bajo Massimo DiPierro Mike Driscoll Alex Gaynor Asheesh Laroia Jessica McKellar Tetsuya Morimoto Paulo Nuin Audrey Roy Gavin M. Roy If you have any questions, please let me know. Thanks, Pat -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam(a)python.org

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dinsdale rebooted
by Antoine Pitrou Jan. 1, 2012

Jan. 1, 2012

Hello, dinsdale was unresponsive (all the services) so I've rebooted it. The services should go back online after the boot sequence is finished. (hopefully I didn't mess with anything when doing that) Regards Antoine.

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Fwd: Please add "Radio Free Python" to the list of podcasts
by Michael Foord Dec. 28, 2011

Dec. 28, 2011

Begin forwarded message: > From: Larry Hastings <larry(a)hastings.org> > Subject: Please add "Radio Free Python" to the list of podcasts > Date: 28 December 2011 13:17:54 GMT > To: webmaster(a)python.org > > > > Howdy, I'm the guy behind the podcast "Radio Free Python". I'd like to see it listed on the python.org pages listing podcasts. Please use the canonical site address: > http://radiofreepython.com/ > > I realize I've only released four episodes so far. On the other hand, RFP is the only Python podcast currently releasing new episodes. All the podcasts currently listed on python.org (Python 411, A Little Bit Of Python, From Python Import Podcast, Jython Podcast, DjangoDose) haven't released a new episode in six months, if not longer. I think it'd be nice to have something lively listed on those pages :) > > > Cheers, > > > larry -- http://www.voidspace.org.uk/ May you do good and not evil May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others May you share freely, never taking more than you give. -- the sqlite blessing http://www.sqlite.org/different.html

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Asking questions on wiki pages - unproductive?
by Skip Montanaro Dec. 24, 2011

Dec. 24, 2011

Some meme has taken up residence in the wiki which makes some people think that posing a question on a wiki page is a good idea. For instance: http://wiki.python.org/moin/Asking%20for%20Help/%27break%27%20outside%20loop I think it's a bad idea for a couple reasons. First, I don't think very many people who might (want to) answer these questions actually see them. We have much better places for help: python-help, tutor, python-list. Second, I suspect most people who ask questions are probably unfamiliar with how to subscribe to changes to a page so they are notified when an answer is posted. I made a simple edit to the above page. Only Fred Drake and Mats Wichmann were notified of the change. Unless the original poster comes back and checks periodically, he'll never know if the question is answered. How do we (or should we) get people to stop this practice? Skip

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Help! BlockedUsersGroup page is gone from wiki
by skip＠pobox.com Dec. 21, 2011

Dec. 21, 2011

I edited the BlockedUsersGroup page to add a spammer login. Moin not-so-helpfully deleted the page when I committed. I tried reverting to a couple different revisions of that page but it kept telling me the page was deleted. About the same time I deleted the spammy page "aweber". That gave me an internal server error. Radomir, are you out there to do a quick triage of this problem? Skip

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PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- November 2011 - Please Post Online
by Pat Campbell Dec. 20, 2011

Dec. 20, 2011

Hello Pydotorg: Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online, http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/ at the usual web locations: please see the attachment for the approved board meeting minutes for November 2011. If you have any questions, please let me know. Thanks, Pat -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam(a)python.org

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Open sourcing 3kpoll code
by anatoly techtonik Dec. 20, 2011

Dec. 20, 2011

1. Where is the code for http://python.org/3kpoll ? 2. How about advertising it on the code's page? 3. What is required to make it run on my local machine? I asking, because I want to see stats what most requested packages are already ported and what are not, because http://getpython3.net/ doesn't provide this info. -- anatoly t.

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PyPI migrated to dinsdale
by "Martin v. Löwis" Dec. 18, 2011

Dec. 18, 2011

It appears that ximinez' eth0 breaks under heavy load; I have now migrated PyPI to dinsdale as a temporary measure. It may be that I missed copying some files, please forward reports to me or fix the issue yourself (in which case I'd still like to know). Regards, Martin

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Fwd: Python 3 Poll
by Michael Foord Dec. 12, 2011

Dec. 12, 2011

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Python 3 Poll Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 19:12:47 +0100 From: Joaquin Abian <gatoygata2(a)gmail.com> To: webmaster(a)python.org Dear Sirs, Python 3 Poll is contributing negatively to the perception of the status of py3k. Many of the packages listed already have py3k versions available in windows (matplotlib, PIL, pygame, ipython, pyramid). Some are already official versions like ipython or pyramid, some are available as binaries in Gohlke repository. It is really impresive the number of people you can find arguing that the fact preventing them to swicht to py3k is the lack of ports of libraries such as numpy, scipy and matplotlib... !! all of them with binary installers for py3k available months ago. Is it possible to refresh the list or the interaction with people accesing the voting system to prevent people voting to already available libraries. Could be libraries removed from the list as soon as they become available ? Thanks for your attention Joaquin Abian

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