Mailman 3 March 2011 - pydotorg-www

Obsolete content in the /dev section
by Ned Deily April 20, 2011

April 20, 2011

This is an issue I originally brought up on the python-dev list here: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/122072 > With the transition to the new devguide, references to the main page of > the old dev section of the website, http://www.python.org/dev/, redirect > to http://docs.python.org/devguide/, the main page of the new guide. > However, many links to some obsoleted sections of the old dev section > are out in the wild (and showing up prominently in Google searches) and > the webserver still seems to be serving up those obsolete links even > though they appear to have been deleted from the www repo, for instance, > the old links previously under Core Development on the left margin bar: > > http://www.python.org/dev/faq/ > http://www.python.org/dev/setup/ > http://www.python.org/dev/tools/ > etc > > I was going to suggest that the webserver be changed to redirect all > /dev/* references to /devguide/ but then I noticed that's it not that > simple as there are other valid links still under /dev: > > http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/ > http://www.python.org/dev/peps/ > http://www.python.org/dev/pydotorg/ > http://www.python.org/dev/searchplugin/ > > So I think there are two issues here: > 1. deleted webpages cached by the webserver > 2. adding redirects from /dev/{faq|setup|tools| et al } to > docs.python.org/devguide I subsequently mentioned this to Georg on IRC and he successfully made the deleted webpages turn into 404's, I assume by deleted the stale files somewhere on the webserver. But then I noticed a day later or so that those deleted files had returned again. So apparently there's a caching issue somewhere that doesn't handle files deleted from svn. I also looked into the redirects and I see that Brett (who made the original changes to support the new devguide) had checked in a set of redirects to trunk/beta.python.org build/redirects.txt, the final version is at svn up -r13620. However, subsequently, build/redirects.txt has been deleted from svn (I'm guessing it wasn't really being used on the main server?) and it appears that the final state of those redirects are not currently in the production server config. Can somebody please add them and make the deleted files go away? Thanks. Here are the /dev redirects from the -r13620 (I have not investigated the other redirects in it): /dev/patches/ http://docs.python.org/devguide/patch.html /dev/faq/ http://docs.python.org/devguide/faq.html /dev/contributing/ http://docs.python.org/devguide/#contributing /dev/setup/ http://docs.python.org/devguide/setup.html /dev/intro/ http://docs.python.org/devguide/ /dev/workflow/ http://docs.python.org/devguide/triaging.html /dev/doc/ http://docs.python.org/devguide/docquality.html -- Ned Deily, nad(a)acm.org

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Fwd: Broken links at http://svn.python.org
by Michael Foord April 7, 2011

April 7, 2011

Were these supposed to be redirects by now? Michael -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Broken links at http://svn.python.org Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:09:58 +0400 From: Alexey Ivanov <savetherbtz(a)gmail.com> To: webmaster(a)python.org Links http://www.python.org/dev/faq#subversion-svn and http://www.python.org/dev/faq/ are broken -- Sincerely y0uRz, Alexey Ivanov

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Fwd: Online Degree Reviews - PSF Sponsor Membership - Please Add
by Pat Campbell April 7, 2011

April 7, 2011

Hi Pydotorg: Could you please add Online Degree Reviews to the Sponsor web page: http://www.python.org/psf/ Please add their company logo and URL. The company URL is: http://www.OnlineDegreeReviews.org <http://www.onlinedegreereviews.org/> <http://www.zimbio.com/>and the logo is attached. Thanks, Pat ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Steve Rawlinson <steve(a)onlinedegreereviews.org> Date: Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:20 PM Subject: Re: Online Degree Reviews - PSF Sponsor Membership - PSF Board Resolution Notification To: Pat Campbell <patcam(a)python.org> Hi Pat, I am very pleased to hear that our application was recommended by the board. We're eager to support the PSF. Correct, both the PSF Representative and Billing Representative are myself, Steve Rawlinson. Our new company logo is attached (a small and large version). We are in the process of updating the graphics on our website, and the new logo should be in use within the next few weeks. The URL is http://www.OnlineDegreeReviews.org <http://www.onlinedegreereviews.org/> I'm sorry that my application was mostly unreadable. I'm not sure how that happened. I've attached a copy of the application to this email in Rich Text format, as well as a scanned copy in case you need the signature. I believe that's everything, but if you need any additional information please let me know. Thanks! Steve Rawlinson OnlineDegreeReviews.org On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Pat Campbell <patcam(a)python.org> wrote: > Hi Steve: > > > This email notification is being sent to you to inform and congratulate you > on the boards’ decision with a unanimous vote to recommend Online Degree > Reviews for sponsor member of the PSF. Therefore, your organization has > become a pending sponsor member, subject to ratification at the next > members’ meeting election, currently scheduled from March 25 thru April 8, > 2011. The election results should be available on or before April 15, 2011. > Please see the following board resolution that was voted on and passed on > March 21, 2011 below: > > > > RESOLVED, that the Board of Directors recommend Online Degree Reviews to > the membership, as a future sponsor member of the PSF. > > > > At this point, however, I am requesting confirmation from you on the names > of your PSF Representative and on your Billing Representative. Our records > show the PSF Representative as Steve Rawlinson, and your Billing > Representative as Steve Rawlinson. > > > > Additionally, please send me your company logo and a URL to be linked from > the Python Software Foundation’s website. I will also need another PSF > membership application form completed by you because the one submitted to us > was mostly unreadable. If you need any additional information regarding > the current status of your PSF membership application, please let me know. > > > > Congratulations! > > > > Pat Campbell, Secretary > > Python Software Foundation > > > -- > Pat Campbell > PSF Administrator/Secretary > patcam(a)python.org > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam(a)python.org

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Mailman image URLs from alternate domain names
by Fred Drake March 30, 2011

March 30, 2011

We support a lists on our mailman installation that aren't on the mail.python.org domain. The Expat lists are among these: http://mail.libexpat.org/mailman/listinfo The images at the bottom of the mailman pages don't render, probably because /icons/ isn't supported for the alternate names for that server. Can we please add support for that to the Apache config? I don't think I have access to that (if I'm wrong, please tell me where to find it, and I'll be glad to make the changes myself). Thanks! -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. <fdrake at acm.org> "Give me the luxuries of life and I will willingly do without the necessities." --Frank Lloyd Wright

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FWD: EDU-SIG Page Typo
by Aahz March 27, 2011

March 27, 2011

I forget who's maintaining the edu-sig page -- please update it ----- Forwarded message from Eric Lee <thenorthsecedes(a)gmail.com> ----- > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:58:09 -0500 > From: Eric Lee <thenorthsecedes(a)gmail.com> > To: webmaster(a)python.org > Subject: EDU-SIG Page Typo > > Hello, > > On this page: > > http://www.python.org/community/sigs/current/edu-sig/ > > It links to: > > > http://www.springer.com/mathematics/numerical+and+computational+mathematics… > > Which 404's -- you may want to update or remove this link. > > Also, on edu-sig, there is another resource worth mentioning: Zed Shaw's > Learn Python The Hard Way: > > http://learnpythonthehardway.org/index > > Which is published under a dual pay/free model. > > cheers, > Eric ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Aahz (aahz(a)pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ "Beware of companies that claim to be like a family. They might not be lying." --Jill Lundquist

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build question
by Doug Hellmann March 27, 2011

March 27, 2011

I don't see any instructions in build/README about how to do a build on the real site after committing a change. I assume that is automated with an svn commit hook. Is that right? How often does that run? I made a couple of changes to new-build/pydotorg.tmpl today. Does that require any special effort, or does the process for updating the live site detect that dependency change (my local build didn't seem to notice until I ran "make clean"). Doug

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Tighten up Jython wiki settings a bit?
by skip＠pobox.com March 27, 2011

March 27, 2011

The Jython wiki seems to get spammed at a low, but fairly constant rate: http://wiki.python.org/jython/RecentChanges?max_days=14 Andrew obligingly deletes the offending pages. They seem to all be created by logged in users whose names match the pages they create, so I'm confident we are dealing with a bot. Can we enable the TextCha capability for that wiki? Thx, Skip

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Can we somehow safely delete bogus page revisions in the wiki?
by skip＠pobox.com March 27, 2011

March 27, 2011

If you take a look at the FrontPage info link: http://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage?action=info note that some of the revisions (562, 560, 554, etc) have amazingly long checkin comments. That pushes the "View" link way off the right edge of the page, at least in Chrome 4. I know it's a small thing, but can we either: * delete those revisions altogether (they are, after all, still available to crawlers and thus give the spammers who created them some small increase in a reputation they don't deserve), * delete those comments, * or get the Comment column to wrap ? Thx, Skip

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PSF Members’ Meeting Minutes for March 11, 2011- Please Post
by Pat Campbell March 27, 2011

March 27, 2011

Hi Pydotorg: Could you please post “The Python Software Foundation Minutes of the 2011 Members’ Meeting March 11, 2011” online at http://www.python.org/psf/records/members/ . The Members Meeting was held at PyCon US 2011 in Atlanta, Georgia. If you have any questions, please let me know. Thanks, Pat -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam(a)python.org

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Re: [pydotorg-www] FWD: EDU-SIG Page Typo
by Eric Lee March 27, 2011

March 27, 2011

Hey guys, Strange. The springer link 404'd when I originally reported it. Perhaps it was a temporary error of some sort. I have no particular interest in handling edu-sig's moinmoin page, but thanks for the offer of stewardship. As for Zed Shaw's link, I feel it's an excellent resource to add to the list -- to learn the rudiments of Python, at least. The voice and pace are ... unique, to say the least. But its addition is obviously at your discretion. Cheers, Eric On Mar 26, 2011 5:11 PM, "Andre Roberge" <andre.roberge(a)gmail.com> wrote: On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 1:36 PM, <skip(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > aahz> I forget who's maintaining t... If you look at the bottom of the page, the last line (excluding the common footer) reads Send suggestions for changes to the edu-sig list or to andre.roberge at gmail.com. > > > >> On this page: > >> > >> http://www.python.org/community/sigs/current/edu-sig/ ... I don't see a problem with the links listed on the page either. > > > >> Also, on edu-sig, there is another resource worth mentioning: Zed > >> Shaw's Lea... Personally, I don't think that Zed Shaw's link is of particular interest for the edu-sig community. And, if you want to "clean up/decimate the edu-sig links", please remove the note to contact me with suggestions for changes. And it probably would be a good idea to also send an email to the edu-sig list explaining the reasoning for the change. André > > -- > > > Skip Montanaro - skip(a)pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ > _______________________________________________ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydotorg-www(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www >

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