Mailman 3 December 2014 - pydotorg-www

I'd like to edit OutOfPrintBooks page
by Luis de la Orden Jan. 7, 2015

Jan. 7, 2015

Hello: I'd like to edit in the wiki, so I could start from a non-critical page: OutOfPrintBooks (https://wiki.python.org/moin/OutOfPrintBooks) I have seen some dead links and it is not updated since 2008. This two webpages have a list of outdated books that I could add, too: http://www.rmi.net/~lutz/pybooks.html http://www.sdragons.org/Bibliographies/python.html Could you add me to the EditorsGroup, please? Yours sincerely: Luis de la Orden (user: LuisdelaOrden)

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Wiki editing permissions
by Scott Zeid Dec. 24, 2014

Dec. 24, 2014

Hi, I would like to be added to the EditorsGroup on < https://wiki.python.org/moin/>. My username is ScottZeid and I would like to change the URL for an application of mine (AppBackup) that is listed on < https://wiki.python.org/moin/Applications#Mobile_Applications>. Thanks, Scott Zeid

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Help with mailing lists?
by Ned Batchelder Dec. 23, 2014

Dec. 23, 2014

Sorry if this is the wrong list to write to. You'll see why I'm here in just a minute. I needed some help with some mail lists at mail.python.org: I need a password reminder, but never got one, and I have some questions about creating a new list. The page at http://mail.python.org says, "If you are having trouble using the lists, please contact mailman(a)python.org <mailto:mailman@python.org>," so I sent my questions there. I got an automated response email that said that no one will answer, and to write to postmaster(a)python.org. I forwarded my questions there. I got an automated response email in German that said to send requests to postmaster(a)charite.de. So I forwarded my questions there. I got an automated response email (in German and English!) that said, "Thank you for your email. We'll work on email issues right away, all other issues will be ignored." I don't know if my questions are considered email issues or not, so I don't know how long to wait before trying something else. What should I do now? Any ideas who I can contact? Things seem broken on a number of levels. Thanks, :( :( --Ned.

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web frameworks page feedback
by Martijn Faassen Dec. 21, 2014

Dec. 21, 2014

Hi there, [I'm not sure where discussion about the wiki content should go, perhaps not here, in which I apologize. please skip to read the bottom] I noticed a recent change to the https://wiki.python.org/moin/WebFrameworks that moved Grok (I framework I helped found) down from the popular frameworks. I agree with that move; it's not been popular for a while now and was never as popular as, say, Pyramid or Flask are now. Here are some concerns I have with the current page: * Frameworks that I consider are big and get a lot of attention such as Flask and Pyramid do not come under any "popular" heading. But they are very popular, and right now they're ranked with obscure things like BlueBream or Aquarium. I don't think this reflects the state of the Python community. If you're going to do popularity stuff at all, why not list some of the popular non-full stack frameworks? * Why are some frameworks in a table format (which gives them more attention, I think) and some not? I can see doing so for popular frameworks, but why do it for some other full stack frameworks and some not? * A framework like wheezy.web is considered "full stack" and is highlighted in a table as such. I appreciate wheezy.web, but I really think this is unfair to frameworks like Pyramid and Flask, which offer more or less the same facilities. You can argue they offer some of them through extensions, but so does wheezy.web. If you're going to say wheezy.web is full stack, then so are Pyramid and Flask. For a traditional Python full-stack framework I'd look for something like tight database integration and a form generation system, like Django has, or Grok has. wheezy.web is far more "roll your own". (For a more modern full-stack framework a lot of it might be done client-side instead) Finally, I'm the developer of a non-big non-full-stack framework called Morepath. I'd like to see it added to the page somewhere too. (http://morepath.readthedocs.org). If someone gives me editor access I can see about making some edits myself, but I'd be happy if someone else took care of these concerns too. My account name is MartijnFaassen Regards, Martijn

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Re: [pydotorg-www] Request to become wiki editor
by M.-A. Lemburg Dec. 19, 2014

Dec. 19, 2014

On 17.12.2014 13:42, Alan Evangelista wrote: > On 12/17/2014 08:28 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >> could you send us your wiki account name ? We can then add you to the >> editors list. >> > > iirc it is Alan Evangelista > > I tried to login to make sure, but I'm getting timeouts in python.org I've added you account name. Please check whether it works. The timeouts are caused by the wiki VM being a bit slow. Sorry about that, but there's not a lot I can do about it. -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Dec 18 2014) >>> Python Projects, Coaching and Consulting ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC Plone/Zope Database Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ... http://python.egenix.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ 2014-12-11: Released mxODBC Plone/Zope DA 2.2.0 http://egenix.com/go67 ::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! :::::: eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/

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Editors Group
by Nikita Demchenko Dec. 17, 2014

Dec. 17, 2014

Hi, my nickname is OMFGNuts and i'd like to join editors group to add some learning courses and sources. Thanx!

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Request to become wiki editor
by Alan Evangelista Dec. 17, 2014

Dec. 17, 2014

Hi. I work with Python web frameworks for 2 years. The web frameworks wiki in python.org (https://wiki.python.org/moin/WebFrameworks) is the #1 result when you search "python web frameworks" in Google , but I think it is outdated and needs some updates. It lists Grok, Pylons and Zope2 as popular full-stack frameworks. All of them are *not* popular and are currently in maintenance status and are not being actvely developed for years. imho they should be moved to the "Other Full-Stack Frameworks" section. Also, I dont understand why Flask is categorized as "full-stack framework" if it classifies itself as a microframework (even the python.org wiki contains that Flashdescription). Also, for consistency I think it'd be nice to either (1) also show first the popular basic framework such as flask, bottle, cherrypy first in basic frameworks list or (2) unify popular and "not-so-popular" full-stack frameworks list. I'd like to have editor permission to update this wiki with these changes. Regards, Alan Evangelista

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