Mailman 3 June 2017 - pydotorg-www

Do we need the admonition about Itanium processors?
by Alex Walters July 3, 2017

July 3, 2017

On the download page on python.org, all the windows 64 bit downloads have a note stating that the download is not for Itanium processors. https://i.imgur.com/A05oQmp.png (Image for illustration) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itanium#Market_share I am not sure that it's entirely required to make the admonition, as there are just not that many Itanium machines in the wild (compared to arm or a flavor of x86). I'm not going to say that stating that they are not for Itanium is bad, but I don't think it's something we need to do, especially since the download link even says "X86-64". Perhaps in the future, don't include the note? Or do, this is just a thought I had while looking at the download page.

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I would like a wiki editor account.
by Bahama＠Mama.kingston June 30, 2017

June 30, 2017

Can you give me editor access to the wiki, please ? Or have you quit the job, maybe? Is the wiki still a collaborative site or just for a select few?

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hey guys, let me volunteer ! yes ?
by Anonymous June 28, 2017

June 28, 2017

or do you not want new people improving things ?

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Steve Holden's arguments don't hold water.
by leaky wiki June 28, 2017

June 28, 2017

let me chime in here! Holden comes across as a somewhat sanctimonious guy. His "site content is maintained entirely by volunteers" line may sound as if all was hunkey-dorey, yet it is the types like him, who actually make sure that the NEW volunteers are being kept out! Rejection rate skyrocketed this month ! The agressive stance against new users is of course part of the plan. Not many editors fall for such a cheap trick though. Steve Holden: > AS a no-more-then-tangential reply I will point out in the defence of > anyone who might be held responsible for not "plan[ning] to mitigate this > dire situation," that the site content is maintained entirely by > volunteers. It's possible that our current approach won't scale, but it's > equally likely that there is much more relevant and recent content is > available from other sources. > > I can't remember anyone who asked for edit permissions being refused. > Certainly, responding critically to an email is sufficient proof of > sentience to merit permission to edit. Thank you for taking enough interest > to want to help. If you feel like organising a crew of willing volunteers > to help curate and maintain the content I'll be happy to introduce you to > PSF people who might be willing to support such a venture (though I can > make no commitment on the Foundation's behalf). >> Our anti-robot protection is no secret. Before anyone can edit, he or >>> she has to get explicit permission from an admin. :) >>> >> >> to most bona fide users this is actually very much a :-(

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EditorsGroup
by Raymond Hulha June 28, 2017

June 28, 2017

Hello pydotorg, I would like to be added to the EditorsGroup *account name:* RayH *intended edits:* I would like to add Visual Studio Code to the PythonDebuggingTools page: https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonDebuggingTools See this for reference: https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/languages/python#_debugging Cheers!

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Does Your Business Need a Lifeline?
by HomeSec Business Finance June 28, 2017

June 28, 2017

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Wiki Edit Access, too
by firefox June 28, 2017

June 28, 2017

hello ChrisA, FirFoxxx here. Editing pages Since spamming and vandalism on this wiki has reached a level that is starting to require daily intervention, new users are no longer allowed to edit pages. If you want to edit a page and have just signed up, or you find that you can no longer edit a page that you could edit before, please write to the pydotorg-www mailing list, stating your account name and your intended edits and we'll add you to the EditorsGroup. Sorry for the inconvenience, but we want to keep this wiki a useful tool for the community, while at the same time need to prevent wiki admin burnout effects. ###### account name: FirFoxxx intended edits: https://wiki.python.org/moin/CmdModule , homepage Let me also say, that the above "clampdown on wiki spam" - while seemingly ongoing for years - might itself have or have not contributed to "keeping this wiki a useful tool for the community". Users, you decide! ;-) Is it still only a "mild inconvenience"?O:-)

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Hello!
by Stepheney Wills June 27, 2017

June 27, 2017

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rejecting-troll Lemburg calls 20 new ed in 2017 a "success"
by Fox June 27, 2017

June 27, 2017

For a wiki of the size and reach of the pywiki to attract only ~ 20 new Editors in all of 2017 is an abysmal failure. The people responsible for this disaster are the wiki admins of course (Lemburg et. al.), who run the place as if they were bosses of it and they owned the wiki like a cotton plantation. They run an iron-fist rejection policy ever since 2013. Yet they ignore well founded criticism and want to stick to their disaster plan like the Tory party of GB. It seems more timely than ever to look out for new admins to replace these people as as soon as possible. Anybody throws in his hat?

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Would like to edit wiki pages
by Jan Sheehan June 27, 2017

June 27, 2017

Hi, I'm a new wiki user, and would like to help edit the wiki pages. My account name is JanSheehan. I'm interested in editing various pages as I work my way through the wiki. I am relatively new to Python. I learned my programming skills in my college days, and have spent most of my career as a tech writer. I'd like to help with the documentation on the wiki as I re-enter the development world. Please let me know if you need me to pick pages or sections to edit. Thanks for your help! Jan Sheehan Seattle, WA

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