Adding a link to 2or3
Hello all, It would be good to have some prominent information to users on the python.org website as to whether they should be using Python 2 or Python 3. We now have a wiki page which is a very good start on providing this information: http://wiki.python.org/moin/Python2orPython3 I would like to add an extra link to the sidebar, to this page of course, or perhaps just on the front page. Thoughts? (If you think the wiki page could be improved then just go ahead and improve it - I am asking specifically about linking to it.) Michael -- http://www.ironpythoninaction.com/ http://www.voidspace.org.uk/blog READ CAREFULLY. By accepting and reading this email you agree, on behalf of your employer, to release me from all obligations and waivers arising from any and all NON-NEGOTIATED agreements, licenses, terms-of-service, shrinkwrap, clickwrap, browsewrap, confidentiality, non-disclosure, non-compete and acceptable use policies (”BOGUS AGREEMENTS”) that I have entered into with your employer, its partners, licensors, agents and assigns, in perpetuity, without prejudice to my ongoing rights and privileges. You further represent that you have the authority to release me from any BOGUS AGREEMENTS on behalf of your employer.
Hi, I don't remember who said this on IRC, but the whole content can be replaced with "Use Python 3 if you can, and Python 2 if you must". -- anatoly t. On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Michael Foord <mfoord@python.org> wrote:
Hello all,
It would be good to have some prominent information to users on the python.org website as to whether they should be using Python 2 or Python 3.
We now have a wiki page which is a very good start on providing this information:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/Python2orPython3
I would like to add an extra link to the sidebar, to this page of course, or perhaps just on the front page. Thoughts?
(If you think the wiki page could be improved then just go ahead and improve it - I am asking specifically about linking to it.)
Michael
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On Monday 05 July 2010 23:02:14 anatoly techtonik wrote:
I don't remember who said this on IRC, but the whole content can be replaced with "Use Python 3 if you can, and Python 2 if you must".
You haven't been following all the right discussions. ;-) In fact, the document originated from the advice previously given to IRC participants on the #python channel and was generously donated by the people who wrote the original and who improved it according to discussion on some mailing list or other. Since then, I see that it has had a few edits by others, too. It does occur to me that the discussion may have been on a closed list, but various "big names of Python" did sign off on the cautious message about Python 3. I think that's a sign of progress in itself: people who have advocated the continued usage of Python 2.x are no longer regarded as people getting in the way; their motivations have been recognised in full. That's what that document is all about: getting into the detail rather than giving advice at the lifestyle level. Paul P.S. If someone could restore/add a link to the Wiki from the front page, that would be great, too. It could go next to the languages link.
On 05/07/2010 22:17, Paul Boddie wrote:
[snip...] P.S. If someone could restore/add a link to the Wiki from the front page, that would be great, too. It could go next to the languages link.
I can do this too, but at the moment I am unable to make changes to the main template and have them take effect. Michael
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On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 09:17:34PM +0100, Michael Foord wrote:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/Python2orPython3 I would like to add an extra link to the sidebar, to this page of course, or perhaps just on the front page. Thoughts?
I think it should go on the top-level download page at http://www.python.org/download/, which is where people are most directly confronted with the need to make a choice. Arguably it could also go on the 2.7 and 3.1 release pages, with text like "Choosing between Python 2.x and 3.x". But I wonder if that will confuse users; will they worry that they're making a wrong choice because of the presence of the link? "Clearly the authors of python.org are trying to warn me against downloading this version!" --amk
On 06/07/2010 16:23, A.M. Kuchling wrote:
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 09:17:34PM +0100, Michael Foord wrote:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/Python2orPython3 I would like to add an extra link to the sidebar, to this page of course, or perhaps just on the front page. Thoughts?
I think it should go on the top-level download page at http://www.python.org/download/, which is where people are most directly confronted with the need to make a choice.
Whilst that is definitely a sensible place to have it I have heard of people coming to python.org for this kind of information and not being able to find it. I'm not sure that the download page is where you would necessarily go for it. Maybe on the "About" page too? Also what about as one of the options in the "DOCUMENTATION" sidebar? Michael
Arguably it could also go on the 2.7 and 3.1 release pages, with text like "Choosing between Python 2.x and 3.x". But I wonder if that will confuse users; will they worry that they're making a wrong choice because of the presence of the link? "Clearly the authors of python.org are trying to warn me against downloading this version!"
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Michael Foord wrote:
On 06/07/2010 16:23, A.M. Kuchling wrote:
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 09:17:34PM +0100, Michael Foord wrote:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/Python2orPython3 I would like to add an extra link to the sidebar, to this page of course, or perhaps just on the front page. Thoughts?
I think it should go on the top-level download page at http://www.python.org/download/, which is where people are most directly confronted with the need to make a choice.
Whilst that is definitely a sensible place to have it I have heard of people coming to python.org for this kind of information and not being able to find it. I'm not sure that the download page is where you would necessarily go for it.
Maybe on the "About" page too? Also what about as one of the options in the "DOCUMENTATION" sidebar?
On the home page wouldn't be unreasonable either given the importance of this. It's certainly the single biggest news/event/whatever in recent Python history. - Stephan
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Stephan Deibel