New Honorary Associate Membership
Kurt Kaiser and I have just updated the psfmember.org site, and I am delighted to say that it is now ready for users to start registering! This could be more money for the PSF, but there are few links to the site at the moment. Kurt is about to send the button he is suggesting you use to put the site prominently on the python.org home page in much the same way that the linuxfoundation.org does. https://lunixfoundation.org/about/join/individual You can pretty much decide on the design yourselves, though a professional designer would be helpful. regards Steve
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012, at 04:21 PM, Steve Holden wrote:
Kurt Kaiser and I have just updated the psfmember.org site, and I am delighted to say that it is now ready for users to start registering! This could be more money for the PSF, but there are few links to the site at the moment.
Kurt is about to send the button
see attached
he is suggesting you use to put the site prominently on the python.org home page in much the same way that the linuxfoundation.org does.
and https://linuxfoundation.org/
You can pretty much decide on the design yourselves, though a professional designer would be helpful.
Thanks, KBK
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012, Steve Holden wrote:
Kurt Kaiser and I have just updated the psfmember.org site, and I am delighted to say that it is now ready for users to start registering! This could be more money for the PSF, but there are few links to the site at the moment.
No, it is not ready. There is zero information on the home page, and I still think that requiring an address to register is broken (aside from the fact from my POV any system requiring both first and last name is broken). -- Aahz (aahz@pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization.
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012, at 08:16 PM, Aahz wrote:
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012, Steve Holden wrote:
Kurt Kaiser and I have just updated the psfmember.org site, and I am delighted to say that it is now ready for users to start registering! This could be more money for the PSF, but there are few links to the site at the moment.
No, it is not ready. There is zero information on the home page, and I still think that requiring an address to register is broken (aside from the fact from my POV any system requiring both first and last name is broken).
I see what you are saying. We were intending to add some informative text to the page on python.org which accesses the non-logged-in page on psfmember.org. But absent that, if you go directly to psfmember.org, it's indeed barren. I copied Steve's text from the logged-in page, less the button that initiates the signup process. Once the prospect logs in, it will see the same text, but with the button. Regarding collecting information, the personal data was only visible to the user and the administrator, though that's not obvious. There is really no pressing reason to collect Associate Member information (beyond email address), since the financial information is collected by the payment processor. I've reconfigured the system to only require first name and country, and modified the payment processing to key off the psfmember.org email instead of the paypal email. That way, the donation honor roll will only contain the data supplied during registration at psfmember.org. If it only supplies a first name, then that's what appears. Assuming it could make a financial transaction, of course. If the Associate Members want to add additional information to their profile, they can. You might try registering and check out the profile, it's pretty compete and allows the user quite a bit of control. -- KBK
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012, Kurt B. Kaiser wrote:
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012, at 08:16 PM, Aahz wrote:
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012, Steve Holden wrote:
Kurt Kaiser and I have just updated the psfmember.org site, and I am delighted to say that it is now ready for users to start registering! This could be more money for the PSF, but there are few links to the site at the moment.
No, it is not ready. There is zero information on the home page, and I still think that requiring an address to register is broken (aside from the fact from my POV any system requiring both first and last name is broken).
I see what you are saying. We were intending to add some informative text to the page on python.org which accesses the non-logged-in page on psfmember.org. But absent that, if you go directly to psfmember.org, it's indeed barren.
I copied Steve's text from the logged-in page, less the button that initiates the signup process.
Much better! Suggested changes: * "becoming a member" -> "becoming an associate member" * PSF -> "Python Software Foundation (PSF)" and link back to http://www.python.org/psf/ * Python should link to http://www.python.org/ * "woud love" -> "would love" IOW, I think psfmember.org needs to be an URL people can hand out directly without confusing people.
Once the prospect logs in, it will see the same text, but with the button.
Now that I've logged in, I don't see any button. No cookies were attempted to be set during login, either. Is this some problem with Lynx? Side note: the site seems to be very slow.
Regarding collecting information, the personal data was only visible to the user and the administrator, though that's not obvious.
IMO, it's still a problem to hide public site information from people not logged in. We want as much as possible to be visible. The other issue with requiring information is that it slows down the process of creating a login. -- Aahz (aahz@pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization.
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012, Aahz wrote:
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012, Kurt B. Kaiser wrote:
Once the prospect logs in, it will see the same text, but with the button.
Now that I've logged in, I don't see any button. No cookies were attempted to be set during login, either. Is this some problem with Lynx?
Okay, now that I finished the previous message, I see the signup e-mail. The site should tell the user to look for the e-mail. Logging in using the link gets HTTP 403. Still can't log in, even straight. Okay, now I tried with Firefox, there's definitely some JavaScript requirement that needs to be fixed. In the FF context, it's annoying that you have to click on the login link to see the login fields. SECURITY WARNING: I noticed after logging in through FF that my contact information is there (meaning information previously given to the PSF but *not* provided to psfmember.org). This is NOT appropriate, especially given that login is done through plain HTTP instead of HTTPS/SSL. -- Aahz (aahz@pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization.
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