Mailman 3 - PyPA-Committers

Invitation for a Fiscal Sponsoree Office Hour in the PSF Booth at PyCon US
by Marie Nordin 18 Apr '24

18 Apr '24

Greetings! I am working to coordinate the PSF Booth with a group of volunteers for PyCon US this year. One of the things we’re organizing is Office Hours for PSF Fiscal Sponsorees and other community groups. I’d like to invite anyone from PyPA who will be attending PyCon US to the Fiscal Sponsoree Office Hours session at the PSF booth. The idea is to hang out at the PSF booth for a short time (a flexible 60 minutes) and connect with event attendees. It's the first year we're trying something like this, so it’s intended to be experimental and casual. We have a couple of community groups already on board (e.g. PyPI and PSF Developers-in-Residence). We’re planning for the Fiscal Sponsoree Office Hour session to occur during the Opening Reception, so there will be lots of people around. Hopefully, we can get as many of you there as possible! We’ll also be running your logo and a link to your donation page in the PSF Booth throughout the event and during the Office Hours to increase awareness about your group. Additionally, we’d like to offer the opportunity to have stickers for your group at the PSF booth. If you’d like us to produce stickers for your group, please provide a CMYK file (PSD, AI, PDF, TIFF, EPS, SVG, PNG, HEIC, JPEG) at 300-600 dpi at print size by Friday, April 26th. I know it can be a busy event for folks, plus traveling and other obligations, so please be assured this is very much an invitation, not a requirement. Please let me know if you're interested, and I will follow up with additional information. Best wishes, Marie -- Marie Nordin Community Communications Manager Python Software Foundation <https://www.python.org/psf-landing/> she/her

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Addition of pyproject-metadata to the PyPA
by Filipe Laíns 18 Mar '24

18 Mar '24

Hi everyone, I hope everyone is doing alright :) I would like to trigger a vote for the addition of the pyproject-metadata[1] project to the PyPA organization. Previous discussion: https://discuss.python.org/t/add-pyproject-metadata-to-the-pypa/22891 [1] https://github.com/FFY00/python-pyproject-metadata Cheers, Filipe Laíns

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Re: Addition of pyproject-metadata to the PyPA
by Henry F. Schreiner 07 Mar '24

07 Mar '24

+1 from me. (FYI, I’m a co-maintainer on this) Henry Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 7, 2024, at 7:51 AM, Jason R. Coombs <jaraco(a)jaraco.com> wrote: > > +1 SGTM > >> On Mar 7, 2024, at 03:50, Filipe Laíns <lains(a)riseup.net> wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> I hope everyone is doing alright :) >> >> I would like to trigger a vote for the addition of the pyproject-metadata[1] >> project to the PyPA organization. >> >> Previous discussion: >> https://discuss.python.org/t/add-pyproject-metadata-to-the-pypa/22891 >> >> [1] https://github.com/FFY00/python-pyproject-metadata >> >> Cheers, >> Filipe Laíns >> _______________________________________________ >> PyPA-Committers mailing list -- pypa-committers(a)python.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to pypa-committers-leave(a)python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/pypa-committers.python.org/ >> Member address: jaraco(a)jaraco.com > > _______________________________________________ > PyPA-Committers mailing list -- pypa-committers(a)python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to pypa-committers-leave(a)python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/pypa-committers.python.org/ > Member address: henryfs(a)princeton.edu

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Financial support is available for PyPA projects
by Dustin Ingram 14 Feb '24

14 Feb '24

Hi folks, +Phyllis Dobbs <phyllis(a)python.org> has prepared the 2023 EOY financial statement for the PyPA, please find it attached. Reminder that the PyPA is a fiscal sponsoree of the PSF and receives funding from Tidelift and thanks.dev for projects under the PyPA umbrella. The PyPA currently has $36,196 available for funding initiatives/expenses of member projects. These could include: - paid maintenance (currently we are paying Bernat, Matt Davis / Oz Tiram for maintaining virtualenv and pipenv, respectively) - additional infrastructure (CI services, etc) - contracted work (UX development, documentation improvements, etc) If you have a fundable idea in mind, please get in touch with me and Phyllis to help discuss/prepare a proposal. Reminder that funding proposals are decided upon in the same way as other PyPA committer votes, per PEP 609 <https://peps.python.org/pep-0609/#pypa-committer-votes>. Thanks!

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github.com/pypa is now on a (free) enterprise plan
by Pradyun Gedam 12 Dec '23

12 Dec '23

Hi folks! Thanks to an introduction by William Woodruff, I have had a few discussions with folks at GitHub about our GitHub Actions queue size limits. As a result of those discussions, the pypa organisation is now on a free Enterprise plan. This has multiple features unlocking for us, including an increase in GitHub Action usage limits vs the team plan: - Total concurrent jobs: 60 to 1000 - Maximum concurrent macOS jobs: 5 to 50 They also mentioned that they'd like to have a chat early next year: > it would be amazing to speak in the new year to help best plan out your org structure to get you the support you need If someone from the PSF staff would want to attend this meeting, please let me know! Likewise, if there's anything that folks think is worth discussing with them, let me know. Best, Pradyun

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Does the PyPA/PSF have a tidelift/hyperwallet account ?
by Matthias Bussonnier 06 Nov '23

06 Nov '23

Hi all, I realised that a couple of PyPA projects have some unclaimed funds available on Tidelift[1]. And that some projects like pip[3] are already lifted, but I can't see by whom. I already lift a few other projects on tidelift (IPython, traitlets) and have the funds sent to NumFOCUS. As a maintainer of Flit, I would be happy to also lift Flit on tidelift and have the money sent to a PyPA/PSF account if there is one. Tidelift says that would be in the order of $250/month [2]. In my experience, the amount is a bit inflated. Does any of you know if PyPA or the PSF already receive money from tidelift, or who I could ask? Is there any objection or concern about me doing the above ? Best, -- Matthias 1: https://tidelift.com/lifter/search/pypi/build, https://tidelift.com/lifter/search/pypi/trove-classifiers, https://tidelift.com/lifter/search/pypi/distlib, https://tidelift.com/lifter/search/pypi/pyproject-hooks 2: https://tidelift.com/lifter/search/pypi/flit 3: https://tidelift.com/lifter/search/pypi/pip

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On the https://pypi.org/org/pypa/ organization
by Dustin Ingram 30 Aug '23

30 Aug '23

Hi folks, I've been CC'd into a bunch of discussion recently (example <https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/12250>) on whether PyPA projects should add themselves to the PyPA organization on PyPI <https://pypi.org/org/pypa/> and wanted to start a thread to clear up any confusion and answer any questions. *Why was the PyPA org created on PyPI?* Mostly to provide an early example of a community organization on PyPI, with the assumption that some PyPA projects may eventually want to move their projects into the organization. *Should projects move to the PyPA org on PyPI?* This is entirely up to the maintainers of the project in question. Projects should definitely not feel obligated to move to the organization. *What's the benefit to moving to the PyPA org on PyPI?*Currently, the primary benefit is that the project can further display its relationship to the PyPA by having an organization listed on the project page on PyPI ( example <https://pypi.org/project/readme-renderer/>): [image: image.png] Additionally, the nature of the permissions model means that all PyPA organization owners effectively will have the same permissions as a project owner. This could be a benefit (e.g., an additional backstop if the project were to become unmaintained or abandoned) or could be a downside (e.g., another owner means another potential point of compromise) -- I think both are equally unlikely, though. *Who are the PyPA organization owners?* Currently just me and @Ee Durbin <ee(a)python.org>, although I have no reservations about adding other owners of the GitHub organization (who are currently me, ewdurbin, dstufft, jaraco, pfmoore, pradyunsg and xavfernandez) to owners of the PyPI organization. *What can owners do to a project in the organization?* TL;DR, adding a project to an organization makes all organization owners equivalent to project owners. Here's the matrix on organization roles: [image: image.png] Currently, this does not give Ee and I the ability to do anything we can't already *effectively* do as PyPI administrators, and we'll continue to exercise the same judgement/caution with our PyPI credentials as we always do. Note that this *could* extend privileges that didn't previously exist to new individuals if we add additional organization owners. If that were to happen, I would expect them to act as responsibly as they already do with their GitHub organization ownership. *Could projects join the PyPA organization but keep the same list of people with authority to do releases?* Yes, the existing list of owners/maintainers does not change (with one exception if the transferring user is both a project owner and an organization owner <https://github.com/pypi/warehouse/issues/13558>). *Is every member of the PyPA organization able to release any project that's in the organization?* No, project owner/maintainer permissions to publish remains at the per-project level. *I would like to add my project to the PyPA organization, what should I do?* Email me directly or @mention me into an issue on your repository and we will sort out the necessary steps. If you have any additional questions, feel free to respond here and I'll be happy to answer them.

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Matrix presence proposal
by Sviatoslav Sydorenko 16 Apr '23

16 Apr '23

Hi, I realized there are two IRC channels — #pypa and #pypa-dev. They used to be on Freenode up until it's been taken over, and are now on Libera.chat. Looks like they were bridged into Matrix before that migration but are not accessible from there anymore. Matrix is a decentralized communication network and a lot of projects moved there, replacing IRC. It's gained a lot of popularity among FOSS projects already. Also, Gitter that has chat rooms of many GitHub projects historically, was converted into a full-fledged Matrix server. This means that there are a lot of users that already have a Matrix account since Matrix allows communicating across servers and, for example, matrix.org users can join rooms hosted on gitter.im and vice versa. The individual users can have end-to-end encrypted chats across homeservers too. With this, I'd like to propose a few things: * Re-bridge the IRC rooms into Matrix (specifically, the matrix.org homeserver), re-enabling a substantial number of users to access them and interact with folks connected over IRC. * Expose aliases for existing gitter.im-hosted rooms of the PyPA projects on matrix.org. * Create a PyPA Matrix Space on matrix.org. This is basically a way to group rooms and people of a community. What will this achieve? Inclusion of people who are less familiar with IRC, a better interconnection of multiple chatting spaces, mostly. Thoughts? -- Warm regards, Sviatoslav Sydorenko --- https://useplaintext.email/ () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ---

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Proposal to create a Python packaging council
by Pradyun Gedam 05 Apr '23

05 Apr '23

Hi all! Please see https://discuss.python.org/t/proposal-to-create-a-python-packaging-council/… and provide your thoughts over on Discourse. I'm-definitely-not-procrastinating-something-else-ly, Pradyun

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Python Packaging Vision and Strategy Survey Feedback
by Shamika Mohanan 07 Dec '22

07 Dec '22

Dear All, Following the Python Packaging Survey, I have summarized the responses and feedback in this Discourse post <https://discuss.python.org/t/packaging-vision-and-strategy-next-steps/21513> . Now that we have the user feedback, we are looking to do a deep dive into the feedback and identify the next steps as a community. Please can you participate in the Discourse post poll and indicate how you would like to engage in the strategy discussions. These sessions are open to all maintainers/contributors. Please share the poll widely. Regards, Shamika

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