This seems like a good set of questions to start with. It also seemed like in general we were unsure of where to allocate monetary resources if and when we get them. Tracking that might also be helpful / some form of sustainability. 

Dan Ryan // pipenv maintainer
gh: @techalchemy

On May 22, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi folks,

As I mentioned on the email thread where we created this list, I'm planning to submit a funding proposal to the PSF's Packaging WG to help ensure that we continue to build on the improvements in communications, both between ourselves, and with end users, that took place as part of the work on the pypi.org migration.

I think much of that improvement can be traced back to ChangeSet Consulting's work on the project management side of the MOSS grant, so I'm planning to submit a proposal for WG to fund up to 100 hours of their time, spread out over a period of around 3 months, where the primary deliverable would be to craft initial answers to the following questions based on consultation with maintainers of PyPA projects and other Python community members:

- What are our expectations for maintainers and lead maintainers on PyPA projects in terms of reachability and responsibility for the overall UX of Python packaging tools? (the internal collaboration question)
- How do we clearly communicate upcoming changes and enhancements to tools in the Python packaging ecosystem? (the external communications question)
- How do we handle both of those questions in a way that allows them to be primarily maintained on a volunteer basis, with only occasional assistance from PSF staff?

While I have no doubt we could come up with at least somewhat workable answers to those questions on a purely volunteer basis, I think we'll get a much better result if someone that's already familiar with and know to the various PyPA projects can dedicate a decent amount of time to the task, rather than relying solely on the time that folks are able to spare for mailing list discussions of the topic.

The purpose of *this* thread is then twofold:

1. Letting folks know that I'm planning to submit this funding proposal
2. Seeking feedback on the questions where we'd like assistance in crafting clearer answers than we have today. I think the three I've suggested would be pretty high impact, but that doesn't mean there aren't other possibilities that would be even more beneficial :)

Cheers,
Nick.

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