+1 On Wed, 30 Sep 2020, at 14:01, Donald Stufft wrote:

Seconded.

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On Sep 30, 2020, at 9:00 AM, Dustin Ingram wrote:

As a result of the discussion at https://discuss.python.org/t/pypa-as-a-psf-fiscal-sponsoree/4939/, I'm calling for a vote on the following proposal:

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I propose that the Python Packaging Authority become a Fiscal Sponsoree of the Python Software Foundation.

Per PEP 609, a vote is triggered when a PyPA committer (not the proposer) seconds the proposal. Afterwards, this proposal will be put to a vote on this mailing list over a 7 day period. Each PyPA committer (member of this list) can vote once, and can choose one of +1 and -1. If at least two thirds of voters vote +1, then the vote succeeds.

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+1 On Wednesday, 30 September 2020, 14:01:57 BST, Donald Stufft wrote: Seconded.

On Sep 30, 2020, at 9:00 AM, Dustin Ingram wrote:

As a result of the discussion at https://discuss.python.org/t/pypa-as-a-psf-fiscal-sponsoree/4939/, I'm calling for a vote on the following proposal:

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I propose that the Python Packaging Authority become a Fiscal Sponsoree of the Python Software Foundation.

Per PEP 609,  a vote is triggered when a PyPA committer (not the proposer) seconds the proposal. Afterwards, this proposal will be put to a vote on this mailing list over a 7 day period. Each PyPA committer (member of this list) can vote once, and can choose one of +1 and -1. If at least two thirds of voters vote +1, then the vote succeeds.

This list currently has 39 members, so we will need 26 votes of +1 to pass. _______________________________________________ PyPA-Committers mailing list -- pypa-committers@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to pypa-committers-leave@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/pypa-committers.python.org/ Member address: donald@stufft.io

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+1 On 9/30/20 9:22 AM, Bernat Gabor wrote:

+1

On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 2:00 PM Dustin Ingram mailto:di@python.org> wrote:

As a result of the discussion at https://discuss.python.org/t/pypa-as-a-psf-fiscal-sponsoree/4939/, I'm calling for a vote on the following proposal:

> I propose that the Python Packaging Authority become a Fiscal Sponsoree of the Python Software Foundation.

Per PEP 609,  a vote is triggered when a PyPA committer (not the proposer) seconds the proposal. Afterwards, this proposal will be put to a vote on this mailing list over a 7 day period. Each PyPA committer (member of this list) can vote once, and can choose one of +1 and -1. If at least two thirds of voters vote +1, then the vote succeeds.

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+1 On Wed, Sep 30, 2020, 10:08 AM Cooper Ry Lees wrote:

+1

On Sep 30, 2020, at 6:37 AM, Paul Ganssle wrote:



+1 On 9/30/20 9:22 AM, Bernat Gabor wrote:

+1

On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 2:00 PM Dustin Ingram wrote:

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As a result of the discussion at https://discuss.python.org/t/pypa-as-a-psf-fiscal-sponsoree/4939/, I'm calling for a vote on the following proposal:

...

I propose that the Python Packaging Authority become a Fiscal Sponsoree of the Python Software Foundation.

Per PEP 609, a vote is triggered when a PyPA committer (not the proposer) seconds the proposal. Afterwards, this proposal will be put to a vote on this mailing list over a 7 day period. Each PyPA committer (member of this list) can vote once, and can choose one of +1 and -1. If at least two thirds of voters vote +1, then the vote succeeds.

This list currently has 39 members, so we will need 26 votes of +1 to pass. _______________________________________________ PyPA-Committers mailing list -- pypa-committers@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to pypa-committers-leave@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/pypa-committers.python.org/ Member address: gaborjbernat@gmail.com

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Paul, let's take this discussion to https://discuss.python.org/t/implementing-pep-609-pypa-governance/4745 On Wed, Sep 30, 2020, 9:43 AM Paul Ganssle wrote:

Clarifying question about how PEP 609 is to be interpreted. The text is ambiguous in that it says "If at least two thirds of *voters* vote +1, then the vote succeeds." If I am reading you right, you seem to be interpreting *voters* to mean "anyone who has a right to vote", but I had interpreted it as "anyone who casts a vote".

If you interpret *voters* to mean "anyone who can vote", that means that failure to vote within the 7 day period is equivalent to voting -1, which seems like it's putting a thumb on the scales against any proposal passing (particularly since -1 votes count double!).

I would expect that we would wait 7 days and then tally up the votes, and if 2/3rds of votes cast are +1, the proposal passes. If we achieve 26 +1 votes or 13 -1 votes in a period shorter than 7 days, we can end the vote early since further voting cannot affect the outcome.

Best, Paul On 9/30/20 9:00 AM, Dustin Ingram wrote:

As a result of the discussion at https://discuss.python.org/t/pypa-as-a-psf-fiscal-sponsoree/4939/, I'm calling for a vote on the following proposal:

...

I propose that the Python Packaging Authority become a Fiscal Sponsoree of the Python Software Foundation.

Per PEP 609, a vote is triggered when a PyPA committer (not the proposer) seconds the proposal. Afterwards, this proposal will be put to a vote on this mailing list over a 7 day period. Each PyPA committer (member of this list) can vote once, and can choose one of +1 and -1. If at least two thirds of voters vote +1, then the vote succeeds.

This list currently has 39 members, so we will need 26 votes of +1 to pass.

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+1 *Nicole Harris* Kabu Creative *Mobile:* + 44 (0) 7480 910 191 *E-mail:* n.harris@kabucreative.com https://kabucreative.com On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 15:48, Paul Moore wrote:

On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 15:43, Paul Ganssle wrote:

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Clarifying question about how PEP 609 is to be interpreted. The text is

ambiguous in that it says "If at least two thirds of voters vote +1, then the vote succeeds." If I am reading you right, you seem to be interpreting voters to mean "anyone who has a right to vote", but I had interpreted it as "anyone who casts a vote".

I agree. IMO, if the PEP had intended "two thirds of anyone who has a right to vote" it would have said "two thirds of PyPA committers". However, we could do with protection against too few people voting (a vote is invalid unless at least xx% of PyPA committers cast a vote, maybe?)

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