Mailman 3 June 2023 - pypy-dev

Websocketify : pypy3 benchmark surpassed go and bunjs using bunjs's own benchmark
by Phyo Arkar Lwin June 24, 2023

June 24, 2023

Found in the wild: pypy3 benchmark for websocket had surpassed both bun.js and golang based frameworks. https://github.com/cirospaciari/socketify.py

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Re: Is PyPy MinGW support broken?
by Julian Waters June 19, 2023

June 19, 2023

Ah, I see. Again, thanks for the clarifications! Yes, I was indeed using PyPy instead of CPython, it looks to me that the logic that pipes the printed values into the rpython toolchain is broken, since in my MinGW /tmp directory I can see that the executables were built without issues and running them writes the expected output to my terminal, however inside rpython printing the result.out returns... An empty array, which rpython takes to be an error. I'm going to have some work cut out for me on this, haha regards, Julian :)

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Re: Is PyPy MinGW support broken?
by Julian Waters June 19, 2023

June 19, 2023

I'm working with the MinGW team; I can create a patch to help, but a quick low down on how the build_executable_cache and related logic works would help me out a little Also: Is MinGW not used by the core team? best regards, Julian

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Is PyPy MinGW support broken?
by Julian Waters June 19, 2023

June 19, 2023

When I try to build PyPy with MinGW, I get the following: [translation:info] Translating target as defined by targetpypystandalone Traceback (most recent call last): File "../../rpython/bin/rpython", line 20, in <module> main() File "D:\eclipse-php-2022-06-R-win32-x86_64\Projects\pypy-release-pypy3.10-v7.x\rpython\translator \goal\translate.py", line 219, in main targetspec_dic, translateconfig, config, args = parse_options_and_load_target() File "D:\eclipse-php-2022-06-R-win32-x86_64\Projects\pypy-release-pypy3.10-v7.x\rpython\translator \goal\translate.py", line 155, in parse_options_and_load_target targetspec_dic = load_target(targetspec) File "D:\eclipse-php-2022-06-R-win32-x86_64\Projects\pypy-release-pypy3.10-v7.x\rpython\translator \goal\translate.py", line 97, in load_target mod = __import__(specname) File "targetpypystandalone.py", line 7, in <module> from pypy.interpreter import gateway File "D:\eclipse-php-2022-06-R-win32-x86_64\Projects\pypy-release-pypy3.10-v7.x\pypy\interpreter\g ateway.py", line 19, in <module> from pypy.interpreter.eval import Code File "D:\eclipse-php-2022-06-R-win32-x86_64\Projects\pypy-release-pypy3.10-v7.x\pypy\interpreter\e val.py", line 6, in <module> from pypy.interpreter.baseobjspace import W_Root File "D:\eclipse-php-2022-06-R-win32-x86_64\Projects\pypy-release-pypy3.10-v7.x\pypy\interpreter\b aseobjspace.py", line 6, in <module> from rpython.rlib import jit, types, rutf8 File "D:\eclipse-php-2022-06-R-win32-x86_64\Projects\pypy-release-pypy3.10-v7.x\rpython\rlib\rutf8 .py", line 26, in <module> from rpython.rlib.unicodedata import unicodedb File "D:\eclipse-php-2022-06-R-win32-x86_64\Projects\pypy-release-pypy3.10-v7.x\rpython\rlib\unico dedata\__init__.py", line 4, in <module> from rpython.rlib.unicodedata import unicodedb_5_2_0 as unicodedb File "D:\eclipse-php-2022-06-R-win32-x86_64\Projects\pypy-release-pypy3.10-v7.x\rpython\rlib\unico dedata\unicodedb_5_2_0.py", line 6, in <module> from rpython.rlib.unicodedata.supportcode import (signed_ord, _all_short, File "D:\eclipse-php-2022-06-R-win32-x86_64\Projects\pypy-release-pypy3.10-v7.x\rpython\rlib\unico dedata\supportcode.py", line 2, in <module> from rpython.rtyper.lltypesystem.rffi import r_ushort, r_short File "D:\eclipse-php-2022-06-R-win32-x86_64\Projects\pypy-release-pypy3.10-v7.x\rpython\rtyper\llt ypesystem\rffi.py", line 515, in <module> sizeof_c_type('__int128_t', ignore_errors=True) File "D:\eclipse-php-2022-06-R-win32-x86_64\Projects\pypy-release-pypy3.10-v7.x\rpython\rtyper\too l\rfficache.py", line 38, in sizeof_c_type return sizeof_c_types([c_typename], **kwds)[0] File "D:\eclipse-php-2022-06-R-win32-x86_64\Projects\pypy-release-pypy3.10-v7.x\rpython\rtyper\too l\rfficache.py", line 47, in sizeof_c_types assert len(lines) == len(typenames_c) AssertionError It seems as if the ask_gcc function is broken for MinGW, and I can't tell why at a first glance. Is a fix possible?

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v7.3.12 has been released
by Matti Picus June 17, 2023

June 17, 2023

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PSF hosted PyPy infrastructure
by Ee Durbin June 7, 2023

June 7, 2023

Hello, I’m writing to get a discussion started regarding the future of PyPy infrastructure hosted with the PSF. This currently includes: - pypy.org <http://pypy.org/> - speed.pypy.org <http://speed.pypy.org/> - downloads.python.org/pypy <http://downloads.python.org/pypy> In April, I contacted pypy-sync on IRC to discuss how DNS records are handled for pypy.org as it has been a barrier to making changes to PSF infrastructure in the past. Because it is the only domain the PSF infrastructure team does not have access to change we have had trouble completing migrations that are related to this specific record. Two things were mentioned that clearly got misconstrued by one of the members of pypy-sync. 1) After noting scroll back mentioning some other domain, I mentioned that the PSF is always available to accept transfer of Python ecosystem domains and maintain their renewal in perpetuity 2) I said "on that note, i'm once again planning some migrations and the apex record pypy.org is once again... an annoyance. The PSF infrastructure is going to institute a policy in the coming months that for infrastructure we host/provide we need access to DNS to make changes to PSF Infra relevant records. who is best to discuss this with?” When I returned, I found that a discussion had ensued that presumed a lot of intent and was honestly hurtful. Since it occurred outside of a PSF online space, I didn’t really have any recourse and just left the channel, I have not returned. So here’s where we’re at: The PSF is always happy to provide any kind of service or resource to PyPy or any Python-related project, but we do need appropriate access to do that right. For example, we can't host services if we can't update DNS records in a timely manner. We need to either formalize a relationship between the PyPy team and PSF infrastructure or part ways for the hosted infrastructure listed above. This formalized relationship will need to have agreements regarding common access to some resources at a minimum and also agree to discuss/collaborate on infrastructure needs in a space governed by the PSF Code of Conduct. -Ee Durbin Director of Infrastructure Python Software Foundation

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