This showed up on another list I read. ------- Forwarded Message From: Roland Orre <roland.orre@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:05:15 +0200 To: cafe@ffii.org Subject: Re: [Cafe] android g1 X-BeenThere: cafe@ffii.org I also have a Google G1 now with a developers account. It is cool to have a telephone which I can ssh from and where I can set up an ftp server. I intended to start porting some applications like some HP calculator (I have HP42S and HP48GX), and probably openssl, openssh and a vpn client. One tricky aspect with the Android system is that it has it's own noncompatible VM which is the Dalvik virtual machine, which shold be more memory efficient than the standard JVM. This JVM is written by Dan Bornstein and released with Apache license v2. The tricky thing is that this gets around Sun's grip on the JVM but also implies that platform independent code is no longer platform independent... JVM bytecode can be converted to DalvikVM code though, but there is no just in time compiler for JVM to DalvikVM yet though, so e.g. Jython is not really nice implemented on it yet, although there is jythonroid http://code.google.com/p/jythonroid/ The current ARM chip is claimed to have hardware support for JVM though, even though Android should not be platform dependent of course. Any opinion about the JVM - DalvikVM issue? /Roland On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 08:39, Ivan F. Villanueva B. <ivan@ffii.org> wrote:
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El Tue, Apr 21, 2009 11:28:36PM +0200, Alberto Barrionuevo escribió:
On Tuesday 21 April 2009 14:05:42 Ivan F. Villanueva B. wrote:
At the moment Google has his own modified implementation of a JRE for his operating system Android. Maybe interesting to check if they call it Java and related issues.
Anyway, It seems the mobile Market will boom soon, with all the Internet applications, and Java will be very important again. I have an Android G1 mobile phone myself, and it is like a device coming from the future. Applications are programed in the Google JRE. I'm just testing it, and you have: - no need for backups, everything is synchronized with your Google account (which is of course not nice for privacy issues, but it works just without doing anything) - ssh, irc, jabber, email, facebook, twitter, rss, etc. Even with notifications. - google maps, youtube, music, Internet radio, etc. - translations from among others google - webpages like, wikipedia, etc.
No Voice over IP though, but I there is a hack to get root access on the phone.
And you can install Debian on it. We are testing this in OPENTIA right now...
Please share the results
-- Iván F. Villanueva B.
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