Laura Creighton wrote:

In a message of Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:12:41 EST, "A.M. Kuchling" writes:

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Jim Hugunin has agreed to do a keynote speech at PyCon 2005. In private e-mail, Steve and I agreed that Feb. 1st was a reasonable deadline for getting a title and abstract from Jim. It'll most likely be about IronPython, but that's up to Jim. We should update the Wiki and web pages to mention this. Jim will get free registration.

Questions:

Guido traditionally gives a keynote, so we now have two speakers. Do we need a third keynote for day 3?

Does this suggest a theme of alternative Python implementations for PyCon? We could ask the Jython, PyPy, and Python/Parrot people if there's anything they want to present -- possibly Christian Tismer for Stackless, too. (I doubt we can help Samuele Pedroni attend the conference, though, which means it's unlikely Jython can be represented.) A panel discussion between implementors might be useful/educational. Teams could also organize sprints of their own. I doubt there's any cross-implementation code to be written, but that's a possibility. Suggested things to do:

* Ping the Jython, PyPy, Parrot, Stackless groups: anything they w ant to present? Any sprints they want to run? * If enough presenters show up, schedule a panel discussion. (Requires a moderator, and at least a ghost of an agenda.)

We could set a deadline for some sort of contest, like the pie-thon competition at OSCON; is that a good idea? (Pro: it's a good way to encourage progress; it's very concrete; and it gets press. Con: Time is short for that; not clear what the goal is -- running Python benchmarks has been done, anything moree may be too difficult. Ideas?)

IMHO two keynotes are enough, but the Parrot/Python angle may suggest a third keynote, or at least an invited talk: Sam Ruby (http://www.intertwingly.net/blog/) is the current person working on it, and he's an XML guy who's given keynotes before (e.g. notes on one keynote are at http://www.jepstone.net/radio/2002/10/10.html#a209.)

--amk

PyPy is funded as of Dec 1. They are signing the papers _now_ I believe. Samuele Pedroni is coming to work for Strakt, to do PyPy. He can come to Pycon. We're _all_ thinking about coming and having a Sprint. I forwarded this to pypy-dev -- I am sure that the rest of the gang will have things to say.

Laura -- for PyPy dev.

Woo hoo! Great news. Laura, if you could plan to present along the lines of "Separating governments from their money for Open Source development" I would be at the head of the line to listen. It would be really great if we could see a major US-Europe collaboration on Pypy at PyCon. The more the merrier! regards Steve -- http://www.holdenweb.com http://pydish.holdenweb.com Holden Web LLC +1 800 494 3119

Laura Creighton wrote:

In a message of Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:12:41 EST, "A.M. Kuchling" writes:

...

Jim Hugunin has agreed to do a keynote speech at PyCon 2005. In private e-mail, Steve and I agreed that Feb. 1st was a reasonable deadline for getting a title and abstract from Jim. It'll most likely be about IronPython, but that's up to Jim. We should update the Wiki and web pages to mention this. Jim will get free registration.

Questions:

Guido traditionally gives a keynote, so we now have two speakers. Do we need a third keynote for day 3?

Does this suggest a theme of alternative Python implementations for PyCon? We could ask the Jython, PyPy, and Python/Parrot people if there's anything they want to present -- possibly Christian Tismer for Stackless, too. (I doubt we can help Samuele Pedroni attend the conference, though, which means it's unlikely Jython can be represented.) A panel discussion between implementors might be useful/educational. Teams could also organize sprints of their own. I doubt there's any cross-implementation code to be written, but that's a possibility. Suggested things to do:

* Ping the Jython, PyPy, Parrot, Stackless groups: anything they w ant to present? Any sprints they want to run? * If enough presenters show up, schedule a panel discussion. (Requires a moderator, and at least a ghost of an agenda.)

We could set a deadline for some sort of contest, like the pie-thon competition at OSCON; is that a good idea? (Pro: it's a good way to encourage progress; it's very concrete; and it gets press. Con: Time is short for that; not clear what the goal is -- running Python benchmarks has been done, anything moree may be too difficult. Ideas?)

IMHO two keynotes are enough, but the Parrot/Python angle may suggest a third keynote, or at least an invited talk: Sam Ruby (http://www.intertwingly.net/blog/) is the current person working on it, and he's an XML guy who's given keynotes before (e.g. notes on one keynote are at http://www.jepstone.net/radio/2002/10/10.html#a209.)

--amk

PyPy is funded as of Dec 1. They are signing the papers _now_ I believe. Samuele Pedroni is coming to work for Strakt, to do PyPy. He can come to Pycon. We're _all_ thinking about coming and having a Sprint. I forwarded this to pypy-dev -- I am sure that the rest of the gang will have things to say.

Laura -- for PyPy dev.

Woo hoo! Great news. Laura, if you could plan to present along the lines of "Separating governments from their money for Open Source development" I would be at the head of the line to listen. It would be really great if we could see a major US-Europe collaboration on Pypy at PyCon. The more the merrier! regards Steve -- http://www.holdenweb.com http://pydish.holdenweb.com Holden Web LLC +1 800 494 3119