Here's three emails that accidentally didn't get sent to the list. On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Dan Roberts <ademan555@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Andrew, Did you ever try your interpreter with the 99 bottles program? I got my interpreter down faster than the beef interpreter ~4s vs ~15s on mandelbrot, however even with that speed, both 'bf' and 'beef' trounced my interpreter by an absurd amount. It seems like it probably was a problem with my code base, when I first saw you were working on this I meant to ask you to try 99bottles.bf and see if you had similar problems. I haven't had a chance to examine where the problem is coming from though.

Cheers, Dan

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Andrew Brown <brownan@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Dan, Did you mean to send this to the list as well? I only ask because it's easy to hit "Reply" instead of "Reply All".

Regardless, I have a 99 bottles program, in the comments it says it's written by Andrew Paczkowski. I haven't mentioned it just because it runs absurdly fast: 0.02 seconds or so (compared with 0.2s for running the py code on cpython), so I didn't consider it a good test. I wanted something that took a bit longer.

I just searched for another and found one by Raphael Bois, but that runs in 0.04 seconds.

Perhaps you're using a different version of this program that's less efficient and runs faster? (or maybe this really is just that fast?)

Also, the mandelbrot program that I included in my repo takes 8.4 seconds to run on my computer. Not quite the 4 second time you're getting (have you published your interpreter anywhere? I'd like to look at it) I have a feeling I've taken this interpreter as far as it will go without doing any more intelligent inspection of the bf code directly.

-Andrew

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Dan Roberts <ademan555@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey, Yeah, that's the second or third time I didn't reply to all lately :-/ And my interpreter is on paste.pocoo.org somewhere, I can paste it again when I go home today. I suspect there's something wrong with it though, considering you're getting proper performance on 99bottles, it takes about 3 minutes here! (On the same system where it wins on mandelbrot by >66% against 'beef' or bf whichever one is faster) One immediately obvious difference was your use of the bracket map, which I think is an awesome idea. I may adopt it, currently I calculate how far backwards/forwards to travel at "runtime" instead of preprocessing it. I made it pure so that it would be constant folded by the JIT, but I suppose the 1000 iterations before the JIT kicks in (per loop) could explain a large performance difference. I could probably combine both techniques and cache the results at runtime, by the second run, it'll be a dict lookup, so it'll be jitted essentially the same, and I won't have to think about parsing to find matching braces :-)

If you can think of a good way to bring this discussion back on the mailing list that'd be fine.

Cheers, Dan