Re: [pypy-dev] Change to the frontpage of speed.pypy.org
In a message of Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:57:33 +0200, Maciej Fijalkowski writes:
Hey.
Just my 5 cents.
It would be cool if default view has a down-scaled version of comparison against CPython. I can look anywhere for recent changes. Also the recent changes as they're now are not very informative and I don't use them at all. They stick around, so I don't know if they're new or old. I'm also as interested in good as in bad changes. Simply this: http://speed.pypy.org/changes/ is way more informative.
Can we either just remove the red recent changes for now or simply put a vs cpython, scaled down graph there?
At least for pycon this seems like a better way to go.
Cheers, fijal
PS. Miquel, don't get me wrong, I think you're doing an awesome job, the speed website itself was a huge step forward for us.
This sounds good to me as well, and I too don't want Miquel to think that I am ungrateful for all his hard work. The site is really good for us, and thank you. Laura
Hi all, hey, it's not like I crumble at the sound of the slightest criticism ;-) Open Source is about this. Ideas, feedback, etc. Only then can we get better! I think I can draw two conclusions: - For Pycon, and maybe permanently, a general comparison against CPython or an overall timeline would be better. I see I have about 1 week to come up with something. - If Maciej, who obviously is a developer, doesn't think that the report, or "recent results" feature is useful, that means that at the very least it needs tweaking. I will think and experiment with different possibilities. For one I will increase the threshold again, to 5 o 6% so that there is a higher signal to noise ratio. I can also imagine showing two numbers: one for the biggest improvement and one for the biggest regression. And maybe the average. We'll see. If anyone has a clear idea of how that could become more useful please share. Cheers, Miquel 2011/2/27 Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se>:
In a message of Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:57:33 +0200, Maciej Fijalkowski writes:
Hey.
Just my 5 cents.
It would be cool if default view has a down-scaled version of comparison against CPython. I can look anywhere for recent changes. Also the recent changes as they're now are not very informative and I don't use them at all. They stick around, so I don't know if they're new or old. I'm also as interested in good as in bad changes. Simply this: http://speed.pypy.org/changes/ is way more informative.
Can we either just remove the red recent changes for now or simply put a vs cpython, scaled down graph there?
At least for pycon this seems like a better way to go.
Cheers, fijal
PS. Miquel, don't get me wrong, I think you're doing an awesome job, the speed website itself was a huge step forward for us.
This sounds good to me as well, and I too don't want Miquel to think that I am ungrateful for all his hard work. The site is really good for us, and thank you.
Laura
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Miquel Torres <tobami@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
hey, it's not like I crumble at the sound of the slightest criticism ;-) Open Source is about this. Ideas, feedback, etc. Only then can we get better!
I think I can draw two conclusions:"I - For Pycon, and maybe permanently, a general comparison against CPython or an overall timeline would be better. I see I have about 1 week to come up with something. - If Maciej, who obviously is a developer, doesn't think that the report, or "recent results" feature is useful, that means that at the very least it needs tweaking. I will think and experiment with different possibilities. For one I will increase the threshold again, to 5 o 6% so that there is a higher signal to noise ratio. I can also imagine showing two numbers: one for the biggest improvement and one for the biggest regression. And maybe the average. We'll see. If anyone has a clear idea of how that could become more useful please share.
My biggest issue is with the fact that they show up and just stay. This means there is no way to distinguish between "I've seen this" or "I didn't see this" which make it useless.
Cheers, Miquel
2011/2/27 Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se>:
In a message of Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:57:33 +0200, Maciej Fijalkowski writes:
Hey.
Just my 5 cents.
It would be cool if default view has a down-scaled version of comparison against CPython. I can look anywhere for recent changes. Also the recent changes as they're now are not very informative and I don't use them at all. They stick around, so I don't know if they're new or old. I'm also as interested in good as in bad changes. Simply this: http://speed.pypy.org/changes/ is way more informative.
Can we either just remove the red recent changes for now or simply put a vs cpython, scaled down graph there?
At least for pycon this seems like a better way to go.
Cheers, fijal
PS. Miquel, don't get me wrong, I think you're doing an awesome job, the speed website itself was a huge step forward for us.
This sounds good to me as well, and I too don't want Miquel to think that I am ungrateful for all his hard work. The site is really good for us, and thank you.
Laura
Well, that use-case is covered by the RSS feed ;-) 2011/2/28 Maciej Fijalkowski <fijall@gmail.com>:
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Miquel Torres <tobami@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
hey, it's not like I crumble at the sound of the slightest criticism ;-) Open Source is about this. Ideas, feedback, etc. Only then can we get better!
I think I can draw two conclusions:"I - For Pycon, and maybe permanently, a general comparison against CPython or an overall timeline would be better. I see I have about 1 week to come up with something. - If Maciej, who obviously is a developer, doesn't think that the report, or "recent results" feature is useful, that means that at the very least it needs tweaking. I will think and experiment with different possibilities. For one I will increase the threshold again, to 5 o 6% so that there is a higher signal to noise ratio. I can also imagine showing two numbers: one for the biggest improvement and one for the biggest regression. And maybe the average. We'll see. If anyone has a clear idea of how that could become more useful please share.
My biggest issue is with the fact that they show up and just stay. This means there is no way to distinguish between "I've seen this" or "I didn't see this" which make it useless.
Cheers, Miquel
2011/2/27 Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se>:
In a message of Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:57:33 +0200, Maciej Fijalkowski writes:
Hey.
Just my 5 cents.
It would be cool if default view has a down-scaled version of comparison against CPython. I can look anywhere for recent changes. Also the recent changes as they're now are not very informative and I don't use them at all. They stick around, so I don't know if they're new or old. I'm also as interested in good as in bad changes. Simply this: http://speed.pypy.org/changes/ is way more informative.
Can we either just remove the red recent changes for now or simply put a vs cpython, scaled down graph there?
At least for pycon this seems like a better way to go.
Cheers, fijal
PS. Miquel, don't get me wrong, I think you're doing an awesome job, the speed website itself was a huge step forward for us.
This sounds good to me as well, and I too don't want Miquel to think that I am ungrateful for all his hard work. The site is really good for us, and thank you.
Laura
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Laura Creighton -
Maciej Fijalkowski -
Miquel Torres