Hi Fabrizio! On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 18:28 +0200, Fabrizio Milo wrote:

I am an Italian student who will participate in the euro-pypy-sprint.

cool. btw, did you already send a note to pypy-sprint at codespeak.net? please also state your timeframe and interests there (redundantly).

Looking for a good idea for a proposal, I saw https://codespeak.net/issue/pypy-dev/ and many issues are interesting.

like: - https://codespeak.net/issue/pypy-dev/issue87 - https://codespeak.net/issue/pypy-dev/issue111

( or/ and ) - https://codespeak.net/issue/pypy-dev/issue205 - https://codespeak.net/issue/pypy-dev/issue224

The common subject here is "Improving test machinery".

Yes, however, issue224 is more about adding tests for pypy stackless functionality (needed _this_ week :) while the other three are about actually improving the underlying test mechanisms mostly and thus belong to py.test/py library and not primarily to PyPy (although both are involved).

What do you think, can issue87 + issue111 be a good base for a proposal? Is it required to produce some proof-of-concept?

I'd suggest that you draft at least the contents of issue87, issue111 (and bits of/integration with issue205) into a proposal under your proposed headline working title. You may bounce it to me or to py-dev at codespeak.net (the py lib / py.test developer mailing list) if you have further questions. I guess the already known sub tasks would be "adding doctest support" and "refined error reporting" for py.test ensuring suitability for PyPy testing purposes (including integrating/helping with Issue205 - the pypy-c test runs). PyPy adds quite some custom functionality on top of py.test and it is sometimes a challenge to design things flexibly enough for it.

Are there other ideas in the community not listed in that page?

Related to testing there is the issue of distributing tests across many machines (using py.execnet as an ad-hoc networking mechanism if you ask me). I see this as a rather separate topic from the other three, though. But there is nothing keeping you from adding another proposal after you finished your first :)

I am a good programmer ( I am a the end of a Computer Science Master course in Rome ) so don't let me escape from helping this wonderful project :)

We will do our best :) Summary: it's best if you look around some more, ask questions and draft a proposal and let me or better py-dev review it. cheers, holger