There's a general expectation that there's going to be a talk on PyPy at this year's EuroPython, so I think we should give (at least) one. Provisional idea: title "PyPy: What it is, where it's going and how we're going to pay for it", a 60 minute talk on the language track in three 20 minute sections, possibly with a different speaker for each section. Thoughts? If someone wants to give a more detailed talk on the whole funding thing, that would be cool, but it probably wouldn't be on the lanugage track... Cheers, mwh -- I think perhaps we should have electoral collages and construct our representatives entirely of little bits of cloth and papier mache. -- Owen Dunn, ucam.chat, from his review of the year
Michael Hudson wrote:
Just a note of support: I think that there *definitely* should be a talk about PyPy on the language track! Additionally there could be a chat about funding issues on another track but I think it'd be odd to have a whole sprint about PyPy plus all the developments since last year's EuroPython and then *not* have a talk about it on the Python language track. I'm rather shocked that this hadn't been planned earlier. :) Regards, Martijn
[Anna Ravenscroft Sat, Apr 24, 2004 at 11:13:20PM +0200]
yes, that's quite right and add pycon plus uk-python + pypy-sprint-talk + some more eu stuff going on + everybody gives some other talks + a lot of stuff going on privately for some people + earning money ... did i forget anything ? :-) holger
holger krekel wrote:
Sure, too much stuff is going on in my life too. But I'll just stay shocked (shocked I tell you!) until you guys decide to hold a talk about PyPy at EuroPython. Note that the (extended!) talk submission deadline is *today*. So submit some minimalistic description today and then we'll flesh out the details later. Regards, Martijn
Anna Ravenscroft wrote:
Is the whole focus on the funding issue causing people to ignore the technical progress that has already been made *without* the funding? Putting on my Python language hat, I don't care a whit about the funding, I just want to know what PyPy is (if I don't already know), what progress it made since I last heard about it (if I did hear about it before), and where it is going now. I want to hear technical details. Regards, Martijn
On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 10:27:45AM +0200 - a wonderful day - Martijn Faassen wrote:
All the best, Stefan. -- .o. e-mail: stefan@drees.name, web: www.sdrees.org, +49 700 SDREESDE ..o fingerprint = 516C C4EF 712A B26F 15C9 C7B7 5651 6964 D508 1B56 ooo stefan drees - consulting and lecturing - problems to tasks
Hi folks, I submitted a (preliminary) abstract for PyPy only three hours after the deadline -- I was on holiday back home in Switzerland, sorry. I think that separating the funding issue would be welcome. I registered for a 60 minutes technical talk, and I suggest that someone says something (at least a lightning talk) about funding separately. (This is motivated by the reactions from Martijn and Stefan, which I totally agree with :-) A bientôt, Armin.
Armin Rigo <arigo@tunes.org> writes:
Good good. It has a moderate chance of being approved :-)
OK. LTs at least can be organized up the last minute; if someone wants to sneak a 'proper' talk onto another track that's a matter between you and the track chair concerned (hint: not me :-). This might be a little tough though: between the meeting ending last night and this morning, another FIVE AND A HALF HOURS worth of talks were proposed! Cheers, mwh -- Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea -- massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it. -- spaf (1992)
Michael Hudson wrote:
Just a note of support: I think that there *definitely* should be a talk about PyPy on the language track! Additionally there could be a chat about funding issues on another track but I think it'd be odd to have a whole sprint about PyPy plus all the developments since last year's EuroPython and then *not* have a talk about it on the Python language track. I'm rather shocked that this hadn't been planned earlier. :) Regards, Martijn
[Anna Ravenscroft Sat, Apr 24, 2004 at 11:13:20PM +0200]
yes, that's quite right and add pycon plus uk-python + pypy-sprint-talk + some more eu stuff going on + everybody gives some other talks + a lot of stuff going on privately for some people + earning money ... did i forget anything ? :-) holger
holger krekel wrote:
Sure, too much stuff is going on in my life too. But I'll just stay shocked (shocked I tell you!) until you guys decide to hold a talk about PyPy at EuroPython. Note that the (extended!) talk submission deadline is *today*. So submit some minimalistic description today and then we'll flesh out the details later. Regards, Martijn
Anna Ravenscroft wrote:
Is the whole focus on the funding issue causing people to ignore the technical progress that has already been made *without* the funding? Putting on my Python language hat, I don't care a whit about the funding, I just want to know what PyPy is (if I don't already know), what progress it made since I last heard about it (if I did hear about it before), and where it is going now. I want to hear technical details. Regards, Martijn
On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 10:27:45AM +0200 - a wonderful day - Martijn Faassen wrote:
All the best, Stefan. -- .o. e-mail: stefan@drees.name, web: www.sdrees.org, +49 700 SDREESDE ..o fingerprint = 516C C4EF 712A B26F 15C9 C7B7 5651 6964 D508 1B56 ooo stefan drees - consulting and lecturing - problems to tasks
Hi folks, I submitted a (preliminary) abstract for PyPy only three hours after the deadline -- I was on holiday back home in Switzerland, sorry. I think that separating the funding issue would be welcome. I registered for a 60 minutes technical talk, and I suggest that someone says something (at least a lightning talk) about funding separately. (This is motivated by the reactions from Martijn and Stefan, which I totally agree with :-) A bientôt, Armin.
Armin Rigo <arigo@tunes.org> writes:
Good good. It has a moderate chance of being approved :-)
OK. LTs at least can be organized up the last minute; if someone wants to sneak a 'proper' talk onto another track that's a matter between you and the track chair concerned (hint: not me :-). This might be a little tough though: between the meeting ending last night and this morning, another FIVE AND A HALF HOURS worth of talks were proposed! Cheers, mwh -- Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea -- massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it. -- spaf (1992)
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