PyPy needs more effort cleaning up how it relates info on its website providing better directions on overcoming its reliance on a specific versions of the OpenSSL library. I have been working in I.T. for 30 years and I know when I see a something that needs better explanation. I tried a few different tactics with pre-compiled binaries, symlink tricks and straight up compiling and still could not overcome the issue of getting PyPy 3 to work for Pip and SSL on CentOS 7. And Googling the problem did not help either which is why I emailed the mailing list which I never do ever.. In the end I used Squeaky's portable Linux binaries which performed 27% slower then CPython in my Website Stack testing. So I had a bad experience with PyPy, I don’t see how that helps a project get followers and grow its reputation… From: Ryan Gonzalez [mailto:rymg19@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 20 March 2018 5:27 PM To: Grant Shepherd Cc: pypy-dev@python.org Subject: Re: [pypy-dev] Pip fails to work Did you build PyPy yourself? If so, you didn't compile the ssl module. Not really PyPy's fault... OTOH if this is a distro package/binary, where did you get it from? You can try the portable PyPy binaries: https://github.com/squeaky-pl/portable-pypy -- Ryan (ライアン) Yoko Shimomura, ryo (supercell/EGOIST), Hiroyuki Sawano >> everyone else https://refi64.com/ On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 4:33 PM, Grant Shepherd <grant.shepherd7@gmail.com <mailto:grant.shepherd7@gmail.com> > wrote: PyPy seems like a great python version Except the extremely painful effort trying to get pip to work Can't connect to HTTPS URL because the SSL module is not available. - skipping

PyPy needs more effort cleaning up how it relates info on its website providing better directions on overcoming its reliance on a specific versions of the OpenSSL library. I have been working in I.T. for 30 years and I know when I see a something that needs better explanation. I tried a few different tactics with pre-compiled binaries, symlink tricks and straight up compiling and still could not overcome the issue of getting PyPy 3 to work for Pip and SSL on CentOS 7. And Googling the problem did not help either which is why I emailed the mailing list which I never do ever.. In the end I used Squeaky's portable Linux binaries which performed 27% slower then CPython in my Website Stack testing. So I had a bad experience with PyPy, I don’t see how that helps a project get followers and grow its reputation… From: Ryan Gonzalez [mailto:rymg19@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 20 March 2018 5:27 PM To: Grant Shepherd Cc: pypy-dev@python.org Subject: Re: [pypy-dev] Pip fails to work Did you build PyPy yourself? If so, you didn't compile the ssl module. Not really PyPy's fault... OTOH if this is a distro package/binary, where did you get it from? You can try the portable PyPy binaries: https://github.com/squeaky-pl/portable-pypy -- Ryan (ライアン) Yoko Shimomura, ryo (supercell/EGOIST), Hiroyuki Sawano >> everyone else https://refi64.com/ On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 4:33 PM, Grant Shepherd <grant.shepherd7@gmail.com <mailto:grant.shepherd7@gmail.com> > wrote: PyPy seems like a great python version Except the extremely painful effort trying to get pip to work Can't connect to HTTPS URL because the SSL module is not available. - skipping