When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py , how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy?
Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow. On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py , how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy?
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Things I don't care about so much right now: - How fast PyPy runs. Things I care *a lot* about right now: - How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow.
On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py , how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy?
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you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in site-packages I believe (just like on cpython) On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Things I don't care about so much right now: - How fast PyPy runs.
Things I care a lot about right now: - How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow.
On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py , how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy?
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As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at least on windows). In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy? On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall@gmail.com> wrote:
you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in site-packages I believe (just like on cpython)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Things I don't care about so much right now: - How fast PyPy runs.
Things I care a lot about right now: - How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow.
On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py , how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy?
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if you just unpack pypy, the packages get installed in bin/ or site-packages/ that belongs there. How ubuntu does it I have no clue. I would use virtualenv On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at least on windows).
In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy?
On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall@gmail.com> wrote:
you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in site-packages I believe (just like on cpython)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Things I don't care about so much right now: - How fast PyPy runs.
Things I care a lot about right now: - How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow.
On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py , how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy?
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I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame apt-get's brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. THEY DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app binaries for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45 mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into the source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access them easily, I put something like this in my .bashrc: for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin done # Laziness alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c" # it was either that or: alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pypy-c" On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at least on windows).
In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy? On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall@gmail.com> wrote:
you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in site-packages I believe (just like on cpython)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Things I don't care about so much right now: - How fast PyPy runs.
Things I care a lot about right now: - How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow.
On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com>
wrote:
When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run
get-pip.py ,
how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy?
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pypy -m pip works On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame apt-get's brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. THEY DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app binaries for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45 mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into the source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access them easily, I put something like this in my .bashrc:
for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin done
# Laziness alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c" # it was either that or: alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pypy-c"
On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at least on windows).
In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy?
On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall@gmail.com> wrote:
you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in site-packages I believe (just like on cpython)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Things I don't care about so much right now: - How fast PyPy runs.
Things I care a lot about right now: - How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow.
On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py , how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy?
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Dang, I forgot about that. Unfortunately, I don't think that works for some other Python packages. On June 11, 2015 11:44:38 AM CDT, Romain Guillebert <romain.py@gmail.com> wrote:
pypy -m pip works
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame apt-get's brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. THEY DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app binaries for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45 mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into the source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access them easily, I put something like this in my .bashrc:
for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin done
# Laziness alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c" # it was either that or: alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pypy-c"
On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at
least on
windows).
In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy?
On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall@gmail.com> wrote:
you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in site-packages I believe (just like on cpython)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Things I don't care about so much right now: - How fast PyPy runs.
Things I care a lot about right now: - How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow.
On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com>
wrote:
> > When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py > , > how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy? > > ________________________________ > > pypy-dev mailing list > pypy-dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
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Unfortunately it doesn't work for nosetests. I've sent a message to python-ideas about this, maybe the -m flag should be changed to work on scripts. I tried a few things, including pyenv, but it didn't work. I've given up at this point. Thanks for your help. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Dang, I forgot about that. Unfortunately, I don't think that works for some other Python packages.
On June 11, 2015 11:44:38 AM CDT, Romain Guillebert <romain.py@gmail.com> wrote:
pypy -m pip works
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame apt-get's brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. THEY DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app binaries for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45 mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into the source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access them easily, I put something like this in my .bashrc:
for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin done
# Laziness alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c" # it was either that or: alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pyp y-c"
On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at least on windows).
In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy?
On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall@gmail.com> wrote:
you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in site-packages I believe (just like on cpython)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Things I don't care about so much right now: - How fast PyPy runs.
Things I care a lot about right now: - How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow. > > > On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: > >> >> When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py >> , >> how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy? >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> pypy-dev mai >> ling >> list >> pypy-dev@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >> > > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >
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Remember: I am *dead* serious about you rebuilding it. If you're on Ubuntu 14 LTS x64, I can email you the binaries I built that *work* for you to try. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Unfortunately it doesn't work for nosetests. I've sent a message to python-ideas about this, maybe the -m flag should be changed to work on scripts.
I tried a few things, including pyenv, but it didn't work. I've given up at this point. Thanks for your help.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Dang, I forgot about that. Unfortunately, I don't think that works for some other Python packages.
On June 11, 2015 11:44:38 AM CDT, Romain Guillebert <romain.py@gmail.com> wrote:
pypy -m pip works
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame apt-get's brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. THEY DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app binaries for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45 mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into the source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access them easily, I put something like this in my .bashrc:
for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin done
# Laziness alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c" # it was either that or: alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pyp y-c"
On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at least on windows).
In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy?
On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall@gmail.com> wrote:
you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in site-packages I believe (just like on cpython)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
> Things I don't care about so much right now: > - How fast PyPy runs. > > Things I care a lot about right now: > - How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run. > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow. >> >> >> On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py >>> , >>> how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy? >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> pypy-dev mai >>> ling >>> list >>> pypy-dev@python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > pypy-dev mailing list > pypy-dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
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I suck at building. I don't know C. There are likely to be errors that I wouldn't know how to deal with. I'm not interested in wasting another hour trying to deal with those. I'm on Ubuntu 15.04. Thanks for the offer. Hopefully instead of investing so much development effort making PyPy x8 times faster than CPython instead of x7 faster, there'll be more effort to make PyPy easier to install. This also goes for Windows: Why isn't there an installer? But yeah, it's an open-source project, so I'm just ranting. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Remember: I am *dead* serious about you rebuilding it. If you're on Ubuntu 14 LTS x64, I can email you the binaries I built that *work* for you to try.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Unfortunately it doesn't work for nosetests. I've sent a message to python-ideas about this, maybe the -m flag should be changed to work on scripts.
I tried a few things, including pyenv, but it didn't work. I've given up at this point. Thanks for your help.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Dang, I forgot about that. Unfortunately, I don't think that works for some other Python packages.
On June 11, 2015 11:44:38 AM CDT, Romain Guillebert <romain.py@gmail.com> wrote:
pypy -m pip works
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame apt-get's brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. THEY DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app binaries for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45 mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into the source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access them easily, I put something like this in my .bashrc:
for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin done
# Laziness alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c" # it was either that or: alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pyp y-c"
On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at least on windows).
In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy?
On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall@gmail.com> wrote:
> > you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in > site-packages I believe (just like on cpython) > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: > >> Things I don't care about so much right now: >> - How fast PyPy runs. >> >> Things I care a lot about right now: >> - How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run. >> >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow. >>> >>> >>> On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py >>>> , >>>> how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy? >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >>>> pypy-dev mai >>>> ling >>>> list >>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> pypy-dev mailing list >> pypy-dev@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev > > >
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Honestly, these is just general Linux issues. Like I said, not even Linus Torvalds makes binaries of his dive logger for Linux. It a pain in the everything. I usually have the *worst* luck building stuff, but PyPy was actually very easy. I ran `make` and it "just worked". You don't need to know C. Even if you did, trying to edit the C code generated by RPython would be suicide. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
I suck at building. I don't know C. There are likely to be errors that I wouldn't know how to deal with. I'm not interested in wasting another hour trying to deal with those.
I'm on Ubuntu 15.04. Thanks for the offer.
Hopefully instead of investing so much development effort making PyPy x8 times faster than CPython instead of x7 faster, there'll be more effort to make PyPy easier to install. This also goes for Windows: Why isn't there an installer? But yeah, it's an open-source project, so I'm just ranting.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Remember: I am *dead* serious about you rebuilding it. If you're on Ubuntu 14 LTS x64, I can email you the binaries I built that *work* for you to try.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Unfortunately it doesn't work for nosetests. I've sent a message to python-ideas about this, maybe the -m flag should be changed to work on scripts.
I tried a few things, including pyenv, but it didn't work. I've given up at this point. Thanks for your help.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Dang, I forgot about that. Unfortunately, I don't think that works for some other Python packages.
On June 11, 2015 11:44:38 AM CDT, Romain Guillebert <romain.py@ gmail.com> wrote:
pypy -m pip works
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame apt-get's brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. THEY DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app binaries for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45 mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into the source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access them easily, I put something like this in my .bashrc:
for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin done
# Laziness alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c" # it was either that or: alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pyp y-c"
On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
> > As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at least on > windows). > > In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to > launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do > I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy? > > On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in >> site-packages I believe (just like on cpython) >> >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >> >>> Things I don't care about so much right now: >>> - How fast PyPy runs. >>> >>> Things I care a lot about right now: >>> - How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run. >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow. >>>> >>>> >>>> On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py >>>>> , >>>>> how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy? >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> pypy-dev mai >>>>> ling >>>>> list >>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> pypy-dev mailing list >>> pypy-dev@python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >> >> >>
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pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
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-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Honestly, these is just general Linux issues. Like I said, not even Linus Torvalds makes binaries of his dive logger for Linux. It a pain in the everything.
*these are* (damn, I hate autocorrect...)
I usually have the *worst* luck building stuff, but PyPy was actually very easy. I ran `make` and it "just worked". You don't need to know C. Even if you did, trying to edit the C code generated by RPython would be suicide.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
I suck at building. I don't know C. There are likely to be errors that I wouldn't know how to deal with. I'm not interested in wasting another hour trying to deal with those.
I'm on Ubuntu 15.04. Thanks for the offer.
Hopefully instead of investing so much development effort making PyPy x8 times faster than CPython instead of x7 faster, there'll be more effort to make PyPy easier to install. This also goes for Windows: Why isn't there an installer? But yeah, it's an open-source project, so I'm just ranting.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Remember: I am *dead* serious about you rebuilding it. If you're on Ubuntu 14 LTS x64, I can email you the binaries I built that *work* for you to try.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Unfortunately it doesn't work for nosetests. I've sent a message to python-ideas about this, maybe the -m flag should be changed to work on scripts.
I tried a few things, including pyenv, but it didn't work. I've given up at this point. Thanks for your help.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Dang, I forgot about that. Unfortunately, I don't think that works for some other Python packages.
On June 11, 2015 11:44:38 AM CDT, Romain Guillebert <romain.py@ gmail.com> wrote:
pypy -m pip works
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame apt-get's > brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. THEY > DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app binaries > for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45 > mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into the > source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access them easily, I put > something like this in my .bashrc: > > for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do > alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin > done > > # Laziness > alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c" > # it was either that or: > alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pyp > y-c" > > > > On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: > >> >> As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at least on >> windows). >> >> In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to >> launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do >> I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy? >> >> On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in >>> site-packages I believe (just like on cpython) >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Things I don't care about so much right now: >>>> - How fast PyPy runs. >>>> >>>> Things I care a lot about right now: >>>> - How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py >>>>>> , >>>>>> how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy? >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> pypy-dev mai >>>>>> ling >>>>>> list >>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> pypy-dev mailing list >>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>> >>> >>> > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > ------------------------------ > > pypy-dev mailing list > pypy-dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
-- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
Against my better judgement, I tried following your advice :) Got this error when running make: [translation:ERROR] CompilationError: CompilationError(err=""" [translation:ERROR] /tmp/usession-release-2.6.0-0/platcheck_23.c:79:18: fatal error: zlib.h: No such file or directory [translation:ERROR] #include <zlib.h> [translation:ERROR] ^ [translation:ERROR] compilation terminated. [translation:ERROR] """) [translation] start debugger...
/home/ubuntu/Desktop/pypy-2.6.0-src/rpython/rtyper/tool/rffi_platform.py(834)configure_external_library() -> raise last_error (Pdb+) On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Honestly, these is just general Linux issues. Like I said, not even Linus Torvalds makes binaries of his dive logger for Linux. It a pain in the everything.
*these are* (damn, I hate autocorrect...)
I usually have the *worst* luck building stuff, but PyPy was actually very easy. I ran `make` and it "just worked". You don't need to know C. Even if you did, trying to edit the C code generated by RPython would be suicide.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
I suck at building. I don't know C. There are likely to be errors that I wouldn't know how to deal with. I'm not interested in wasting another hour trying to deal with those.
I'm on Ubuntu 15.04. Thanks for the offer.
Hopefully instead of investing so much development effort making PyPy x8 times faster than CPython instead of x7 faster, there'll be more effort to make PyPy easier to install. This also goes for Windows: Why isn't there an installer? But yeah, it's an open-source project, so I'm just ranting.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Remember: I am *dead* serious about you rebuilding it. If you're on Ubuntu 14 LTS x64, I can email you the binaries I built that *work* for you to try.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Unfortunately it doesn't work for nosetests. I've sent a message to python-ideas about this, maybe the -m flag should be changed to work on scripts.
I tried a few things, including pyenv, but it didn't work. I've given up at this point. Thanks for your help.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Dang, I forgot about that. Unfortunately, I don't think that works for some other Python packages.
On June 11, 2015 11:44:38 AM CDT, Romain Guillebert <romain.py@ gmail.com> wrote: > > pypy -m pip works > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame apt-get's >> brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. THEY >> DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app binaries >> for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45 >> mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into the >> source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access them easily, I put >> something like this in my .bashrc: >> >> for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do >> alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin >> done >> >> # Laziness >> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c" >> # it was either that or: >> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pyp >> y-c" >> >> >> >> On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at least on >>> windows). >>> >>> In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to >>> launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do >>> I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy? >>> >>> On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in >>>> site-packages I believe (just like on cpython) >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Things I don't care about so much right now: >>>>> - How fast PyPy runs. >>>>> >>>>> Things I care a lot about right now: >>>>> - How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py >>>>>>> , >>>>>>> how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> pypy-dev mai >>>>>>> ling >>>>>>> list >>>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> pypy-dev mailing list >>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> -- >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> pypy-dev mailing list >> pypy-dev@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev > > > -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
The PyPy PPA works brilliantly on 15.04 for me.
From there I just make a virtualenv with:
$ virtualenv -P /usr/bin/pypy (Can't remember if it's -P or -p) Once activated, just running pip works fine for me. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015, 11:49 Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Against my better judgement, I tried following your advice :)
Got this error when running make:
[translation:ERROR] CompilationError: CompilationError(err=""" [translation:ERROR] /tmp/usession-release-2.6.0-0/platcheck_23.c:79:18: fatal error: zlib.h: No such file or directory [translation:ERROR] #include <zlib.h> [translation:ERROR] ^ [translation:ERROR] compilation terminated. [translation:ERROR] """) [translation] start debugger...
/home/ubuntu/Desktop/pypy-2.6.0-src/rpython/rtyper/tool/rffi_platform.py(834)configure_external_library() -> raise last_error (Pdb+)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Honestly, these is just general Linux issues. Like I said, not even Linus Torvalds makes binaries of his dive logger for Linux. It a pain in the everything.
*these are* (damn, I hate autocorrect...)
I usually have the *worst* luck building stuff, but PyPy was actually very easy. I ran `make` and it "just worked". You don't need to know C. Even if you did, trying to edit the C code generated by RPython would be suicide.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
I suck at building. I don't know C. There are likely to be errors that I wouldn't know how to deal with. I'm not interested in wasting another hour trying to deal with those.
I'm on Ubuntu 15.04. Thanks for the offer.
Hopefully instead of investing so much development effort making PyPy x8 times faster than CPython instead of x7 faster, there'll be more effort to make PyPy easier to install. This also goes for Windows: Why isn't there an installer? But yeah, it's an open-source project, so I'm just ranting.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Remember: I am *dead* serious about you rebuilding it. If you're on Ubuntu 14 LTS x64, I can email you the binaries I built that *work* for you to try.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Unfortunately it doesn't work for nosetests. I've sent a message to python-ideas about this, maybe the -m flag should be changed to work on scripts.
I tried a few things, including pyenv, but it didn't work. I've given up at this point. Thanks for your help.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dang, I forgot about that. Unfortunately, I don't think that works > for some other Python packages. > > > On June 11, 2015 11:44:38 AM CDT, Romain Guillebert <romain.py@ > gmail.com> wrote: >> >> pypy -m pip works >> >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame apt-get's >>> brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. THEY >>> DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app binaries >>> for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45 >>> mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into the >>> source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access them easily, I put >>> something like this in my .bashrc: >>> >>> for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do >>> alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin >>> done >>> >>> # Laziness >>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c" >>> # it was either that or: >>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pyp >>> y-c" >>> >>> >>> >>> On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at least on >>>> windows). >>>> >>>> In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to >>>> launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do >>>> I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy? >>>> >>>> On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in >>>>> site-packages I believe (just like on cpython) >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Things I don't care about so much right now: >>>>>> - How fast PyPy runs. >>>>>> >>>>>> Things I care a lot about right now: >>>>>> - How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py >>>>>>>> , >>>>>>>> how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> pypy-dev mai >>>>>>>> ling >>>>>>>> list >>>>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> pypy-dev mailing list >>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> pypy-dev mailing list >>> pypy-dev@python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >> >> >> > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
_______________________________________________ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
I have no idea how to use the PyPy PPA. (Not a Linux user here.) On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Randall Leeds <randall.leeds@gmail.com> wrote:
The PyPy PPA works brilliantly on 15.04 for me.
From there I just make a virtualenv with:
$ virtualenv -P /usr/bin/pypy
(Can't remember if it's -P or -p)
Once activated, just running pip works fine for me.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015, 11:49 Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Against my better judgement, I tried following your advice :)
Got this error when running make:
[translation:ERROR] CompilationError: CompilationError(err=""" [translation:ERROR] /tmp/usession-release-2.6.0-0/platcheck_23.c:79:18: fatal error: zlib.h: No such file or directory [translation:ERROR] #include <zlib.h> [translation:ERROR] ^ [translation:ERROR] compilation terminated. [translation:ERROR] """) [translation] start debugger...
/home/ubuntu/Desktop/pypy-2.6.0-src/rpython/rtyper/tool/rffi_platform.py(834)configure_external_library() -> raise last_error (Pdb+)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Honestly, these is just general Linux issues. Like I said, not even Linus Torvalds makes binaries of his dive logger for Linux. It a pain in the everything.
*these are* (damn, I hate autocorrect...)
I usually have the *worst* luck building stuff, but PyPy was actually very easy. I ran `make` and it "just worked". You don't need to know C. Even if you did, trying to edit the C code generated by RPython would be suicide.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
I suck at building. I don't know C. There are likely to be errors that I wouldn't know how to deal with. I'm not interested in wasting another hour trying to deal with those.
I'm on Ubuntu 15.04. Thanks for the offer.
Hopefully instead of investing so much development effort making PyPy x8 times faster than CPython instead of x7 faster, there'll be more effort to make PyPy easier to install. This also goes for Windows: Why isn't there an installer? But yeah, it's an open-source project, so I'm just ranting.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Remember: I am *dead* serious about you rebuilding it. If you're on Ubuntu 14 LTS x64, I can email you the binaries I built that *work* for you to try.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately it doesn't work for nosetests. I've sent a message to > python-ideas about this, maybe the -m flag should be changed to work on > scripts. > > I tried a few things, including pyenv, but it didn't work. I've > given up at this point. Thanks for your help. > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Dang, I forgot about that. Unfortunately, I don't think that works >> for some other Python packages. >> >> >> On June 11, 2015 11:44:38 AM CDT, Romain Guillebert <romain.py@ >> gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> pypy -m pip works >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame apt-get's >>>> brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. THEY >>>> DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app binaries >>>> for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45 >>>> mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into the >>>> source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access them easily, I put >>>> something like this in my .bashrc: >>>> >>>> for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do >>>> alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin >>>> done >>>> >>>> # Laziness >>>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c" >>>> # it was either that or: >>>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pyp >>>> y-c" >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at least on >>>>> windows). >>>>> >>>>> In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to >>>>> launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do >>>>> I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy? >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in >>>>>> site-packages I believe (just like on cpython) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Things I don't care about so much right now: >>>>>>> - How fast PyPy runs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Things I care a lot about right now: >>>>>>> - How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py >>>>>>>>> , >>>>>>>>> how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> pypy-dev mai >>>>>>>>> ling >>>>>>>>> list >>>>>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> pypy-dev mailing list >>>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> pypy-dev mailing list >>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> > >
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
_______________________________________________ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
I'm in transit right but I can spell out the directions when I'm settled a little later. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015, 11:55 Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
I have no idea how to use the PyPy PPA. (Not a Linux user here.)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Randall Leeds <randall.leeds@gmail.com> wrote:
The PyPy PPA works brilliantly on 15.04 for me.
From there I just make a virtualenv with:
$ virtualenv -P /usr/bin/pypy
(Can't remember if it's -P or -p)
Once activated, just running pip works fine for me.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015, 11:49 Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Against my better judgement, I tried following your advice :)
Got this error when running make:
[translation:ERROR] CompilationError: CompilationError(err=""" [translation:ERROR] /tmp/usession-release-2.6.0-0/platcheck_23.c:79:18: fatal error: zlib.h: No such file or directory [translation:ERROR] #include <zlib.h> [translation:ERROR] ^ [translation:ERROR] compilation terminated. [translation:ERROR] """) [translation] start debugger...
/home/ubuntu/Desktop/pypy-2.6.0-src/rpython/rtyper/tool/rffi_platform.py(834)configure_external_library() -> raise last_error (Pdb+)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Honestly, these is just general Linux issues. Like I said, not even Linus Torvalds makes binaries of his dive logger for Linux. It a pain in the everything.
*these are* (damn, I hate autocorrect...)
I usually have the *worst* luck building stuff, but PyPy was actually very easy. I ran `make` and it "just worked". You don't need to know C. Even if you did, trying to edit the C code generated by RPython would be suicide.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
I suck at building. I don't know C. There are likely to be errors that I wouldn't know how to deal with. I'm not interested in wasting another hour trying to deal with those.
I'm on Ubuntu 15.04. Thanks for the offer.
Hopefully instead of investing so much development effort making PyPy x8 times faster than CPython instead of x7 faster, there'll be more effort to make PyPy easier to install. This also goes for Windows: Why isn't there an installer? But yeah, it's an open-source project, so I'm just ranting.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
> Remember: I am *dead* serious about you rebuilding it. If you're on > Ubuntu 14 LTS x64, I can email you the binaries I built that *work* for you > to try. > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: > >> Unfortunately it doesn't work for nosetests. I've sent a message to >> python-ideas about this, maybe the -m flag should be changed to work on >> scripts. >> >> I tried a few things, including pyenv, but it didn't work. I've >> given up at this point. Thanks for your help. >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Dang, I forgot about that. Unfortunately, I don't think that works >>> for some other Python packages. >>> >>> >>> On June 11, 2015 11:44:38 AM CDT, Romain Guillebert <romain.py@ >>> gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> pypy -m pip works >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame apt-get's >>>>> brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. THEY >>>>> DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app binaries >>>>> for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45 >>>>> mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into the >>>>> source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access them easily, I put >>>>> something like this in my .bashrc: >>>>> >>>>> for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do >>>>> alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin >>>>> done >>>>> >>>>> # Laziness >>>>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c" >>>>> # it was either that or: >>>>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pyp >>>>> y-c" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at least on >>>>>> windows). >>>>>> >>>>>> In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to >>>>>> launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do >>>>>> I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in >>>>>>> site-packages I believe (just like on cpython) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Things I don't care about so much right now: >>>>>>>> - How fast PyPy runs. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Things I care a lot about right now: >>>>>>>> - How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py >>>>>>>>>> , >>>>>>>>>> how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> pypy-dev mai >>>>>>>>>> ling >>>>>>>>>> list >>>>>>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> pypy-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> pypy-dev mailing list >>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my >>> brevity. >>> >> >> > > > -- > Ryan > [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your > program. Something’s wrong. > http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ > >
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
_______________________________________________ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pypy/ppa sudo apt-get update On June 11, 2015 1:54:55 PM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
I have no idea how to use the PyPy PPA. (Not a Linux user here.)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Randall Leeds <randall.leeds@gmail.com> wrote:
The PyPy PPA works brilliantly on 15.04 for me.
From there I just make a virtualenv with:
$ virtualenv -P /usr/bin/pypy
(Can't remember if it's -P or -p)
Once activated, just running pip works fine for me.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015, 11:49 Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Against my better judgement, I tried following your advice :)
Got this error when running make:
[translation:ERROR] CompilationError: CompilationError(err=""" [translation:ERROR] /tmp/usession-release-2.6.0-0/platcheck_23.c:79:18: fatal error: zlib.h: No such file or directory [translation:ERROR] #include <zlib.h> [translation:ERROR] ^ [translation:ERROR] compilation terminated. [translation:ERROR] """) [translation] start debugger...
-> raise last_error (Pdb+)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Honestly, these is just general Linux issues. Like I said, not even Linus Torvalds makes binaries of his dive logger for Linux. It a
the everything.
*these are* (damn, I hate autocorrect...)
I usually have the *worst* luck building stuff, but PyPy was
actually
very easy. I ran `make` and it "just worked". You don't need to know C. Even if you did, trying to edit the C code generated by RPython would be suicide.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
I suck at building. I don't know C. There are likely to be errors
I wouldn't know how to deal with. I'm not interested in wasting another hour trying to deal with those.
I'm on Ubuntu 15.04. Thanks for the offer.
Hopefully instead of investing so much development effort making PyPy x8 times faster than CPython instead of x7 faster, there'll be more effort to make PyPy easier to install. This also goes for Windows: Why isn't there an installer? But yeah, it's an open-source project, so I'm just ranting.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
> Remember: I am *dead* serious about you rebuilding it. If you're on > Ubuntu 14 LTS x64, I can email you the binaries I built that *work* for you > to try. > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: > >> Unfortunately it doesn't work for nosetests. I've sent a message to >> python-ideas about this, maybe the -m flag should be changed to work on >> scripts. >> >> I tried a few things, including pyenv, but it didn't work. I've >> given up at this point. Thanks for your help. >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Dang, I forgot about that. Unfortunately, I don't think that works >>> for some other Python packages. >>> >>> >>> On June 11, 2015 11:44:38 AM CDT, Romain Guillebert <romain.py@ >>> gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> pypy -m pip works >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame apt-get's >>>>> brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. THEY >>>>> DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app binaries >>>>> for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45 >>>>> mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into the >>>>> source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access
>>>>> something like this in my .bashrc: >>>>> >>>>> for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do >>>>> alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin >>>>> done >>>>> >>>>> # Laziness >>>>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c" >>>>> # it was either that or: >>>>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pyp >>>>> y-c" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site
/home/ubuntu/Desktop/pypy-2.6.0-src/rpython/rtyper/tool/rffi_platform.py(834)configure_external_library() pain in that them easily, I put packages (at least on
>>>>>> windows). >>>>>> >>>>>> In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to >>>>>> launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do >>>>>> I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in >>>>>>> site-packages I believe (just like on cpython) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Things I don't care about so much right now: >>>>>>>> - How fast PyPy runs. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Things I care a lot about right now: >>>>>>>> - How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py >>>>>>>>>> , >>>>>>>>>> how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> pypy-dev mai >>>>>>>>>> ling >>>>>>>>>> list >>>>>>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> pypy-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> pypy-dev mailing list >>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>> >> >> > > > -- > Ryan > [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your > program. Something’s wrong. > http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ > >
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
_______________________________________________ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
-- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
When you use the ppa, where will nosetests be located? On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pypy/ppa sudo apt-get update
On June 11, 2015 1:54:55 PM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
I have no idea how to use the PyPy PPA. (Not a Linux user here.)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Randall Leeds <randall.leeds@gmail.com> wrote:
The PyPy PPA works brilliantly on 15.04 for me.
From there I just make a virtualenv with:
$ virtualenv -P /usr/bin/pypy
(Can't remember if it's -P or -p)
Once activated, just running pip works fine for me.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015, 11:49 Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Against my better judgement, I tried following your advice :)
Got this error when running make:
[translation:ERROR] CompilationError: CompilationError(err=""" [translation:ERROR] /tmp/usession-release-2.6.0-0/platcheck_23.c:79:18: fatal error: zlib.h: No such file or directory [translation:ERROR] #include <zlib.h> [translation:ERROR] ^ [translation:ERROR] compilation terminated. [translation:ERROR] """) [translation] start debugger...
/home/ubuntu/Desktop/pypy-2.6.0-src/rpython/rtyper/tool/rffi_platform.py(834)configure_external_library() -> raise last_error (Pdb+)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Honestly, these is just general Linux issues. Like I said, not even Linus Torvalds makes binaries of his dive logger for Linux. It a pain in the everything.
*these are* (damn, I hate autocorrect...)
I usually have the *worst* luck building stuff, but PyPy was actually very easy. I ran `make` and it "just worked". You don't need to know C. Even if you did, trying to edit the C code generated by RPython would be suicide.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
> I suck at building. I don't know C. There are likely to be errors > that I wouldn't know how to deal with. I'm not interested in wasting > another hour trying to deal with those. > > I'm on Ubuntu 15.04. Thanks for the offer. > > Hopefully instead of investing so much development effort making > PyPy x8 times faster than CPython instead of x7 faster, there'll be more > effort to make PyPy easier to install. This also goes for Windows: Why > isn't there an installer? But yeah, it's an open-source project, so I'm > just ranting. > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Remember: I am *dead* serious about you rebuilding it. If you're on >> Ubuntu 14 LTS x64, I can email you the binaries I built that *work* for you >> to try. >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Unfortunately it doesn't work for nosetests. I've sent a message >>> to python-ideas about this, maybe the -m flag should be changed to work on >>> scripts. >>> >>> I tried a few things, including pyenv, but it didn't work. I've >>> given up at this point. Thanks for your help. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dang, I forgot about that. Unfortunately, I don't think that >>>> works for some other Python packages. >>>> >>>> >>>> On June 11, 2015 11:44:38 AM CDT, Romain Guillebert <romain.py@ >>>> gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> pypy -m pip works >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame apt-get's >>>>>> brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. THEY >>>>>> DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app binaries >>>>>> for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45 >>>>>> mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into the >>>>>> source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access them easily, I put >>>>>> something like this in my .bashr >>>>>> c: >>>>>> >>>>>> for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do >>>>>> alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin >>>>>> done >>>>>> >>>>>> # Laziness >>>>>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c" >>>>>> # it was either that or: >>>>>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pyp >>>>>> y-c" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at least on >>>>>>> windows). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to >>>>>>> launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do >>>>>>> I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in >>>>>>>> site-packages I believe (just like on cpython) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Things I don't care about so much right now: >>>>>>>>> - How fast PyPy runs. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Things I care a lot about right now: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * - >>>>>>>>> How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com <rymg19@gmail.com>> wrote: Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow. On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com <ram@rachum.com>> wrote: When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py <http://get-pip.py> , how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy?------------------------------ pypy-dev mai >>>>>>>>> ling >>>>>>>>> list pypy-dev@python.org <pypy-dev@python.org> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev> -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.------------------------------ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org <pypy-dev@python.org> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev>* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> pypy-dev mailing list >>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my >>>> brevity. >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Ryan >> [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than >> your program. Something’s wrong. >> http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ >> >> > >
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
_______________________________________________ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
-- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Have you tried portable pypy ? https://github.com/squeaky-pl/portable-pypy it works for me , in every linuxes. On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 1:42 AM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
When you use the ppa, where will nosetests be located?
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pypy/ppa sudo apt-get update
On June 11, 2015 1:54:55 PM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
I have no idea how to use the PyPy PPA. (Not a Linux user here.)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Randall Leeds <randall.leeds@gmail.com> wrote:
The PyPy PPA works brilliantly on 15.04 for me.
From there I just make a virtualenv with:
$ virtualenv -P /usr/bin/pypy
(Can't remember if it's -P or -p)
Once activated, just running pip works fine for me.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015, 11:49 Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Against my better judgement, I tried following your advice :)
Got this error when running make:
[translation:ERROR] CompilationError: CompilationError(err=""" [translation:ERROR] /tmp/usession-release-2.6.0-0/platcheck_23.c:79:18: fatal error: zlib.h: No such file or directory [translation:ERROR] #include <zlib.h> [translation:ERROR] ^ [translation:ERROR] compilation terminated. [translation:ERROR] """) [translation] start debugger...
/home/ubuntu/Desktop/pypy-2.6.0-src/rpython/rtyper/tool/rffi_platform.py(834)configure_external_library() -> raise last_error (Pdb+)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
> Honestly, these is just general Linux issues. Like I said, not even > Linus Torvalds makes binaries of his dive logger for Linux. It a pain in > the everything. >
*these are* (damn, I hate autocorrect...)
> > I usually have the *worst* luck building stuff, but PyPy was > actually very easy. I ran `make` and it "just worked". You don't need to > know C. Even if you did, trying to edit the C code generated by RPython > would be suicide. > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: > >> I suck at building. I don't know C. There are likely to be errors >> that I wouldn't know how to deal with. I'm not interested in wasting >> another hour trying to deal with those. >> >> I'm on Ubuntu 15.04. Thanks for the offer. >> >> Hopefully instead of investing so much development effort making >> PyPy x8 times faster than CPython instead of x7 faster, there'll be more >> effort to make PyPy easier to install. This also goes for Windows: Why >> isn't there an installer? But yeah, it's an open-source project, so I'm >> just ranting. >> >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Remember: I am *dead* serious about you rebuilding it. If you're >>> on Ubuntu 14 LTS x64, I can email you the binaries I built that *work* for >>> you to try. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Unfortunately it doesn't work for nosetests. I've sent a message >>>> to python-ideas about this, maybe the -m flag should be changed to work on >>>> scripts. >>>> >>>> I tried a few things, including pyenv, but it didn't work. I've >>>> given up at this point. Thanks for your help. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dang, I forgot about that. Unfortunately, I don't think that >>>>> works for some other Python packages. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On June 11, 2015 11:44:38 AM CDT, Romain Guillebert <romain.py@ >>>>> gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> pypy -m pip works >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame apt-get's >>>>>>> brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. THEY >>>>>>> DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app binaries >>>>>>> for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45 >>>>>>> mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into the >>>>>>> source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access them easily, I put >>>>>>> something like this in my .bashr >>>>>>> c: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do >>>>>>> alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin >>>>>>> done >>>>>>> >>>>>>> # Laziness >>>>>>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c" >>>>>>> # it was either that or: >>>>>>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pyp >>>>>>> y-c" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at least on >>>>>>>> windows). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to >>>>>>>> launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do >>>>>>>> I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in >>>>>>>>> site-packages I believe (just like on cpython) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Things I don't care about so much right now: >>>>>>>>>> - How fast PyPy runs. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Things I care a lot about right now: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * - >>>>>>>>>> How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com <rymg19@gmail.com>> wrote: Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow. On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com <ram@rachum.com>> wrote: When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py <http://get-pip.py> , how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy?------------------------------ pypy-dev mai >>>>>>>>>> ling >>>>>>>>>> list pypy-dev@python.org <pypy-dev@python.org> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev> -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.------------------------------ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org <pypy-dev@python.org> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev>* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> pypy-dev mailing list >>>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my >>>>> brevity. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ryan >>> [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than >>> your program. Something’s wrong. >>> http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ >>> >>> >> >> > > > -- > Ryan > [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your > program. Something’s wrong. > http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ > >
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It is just Download , extract , Run, and have fun. On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 1:43 AM, Phyo Arkar <phyo.arkarlwin@gmail.com> wrote:
Have you tried portable pypy ? https://github.com/squeaky-pl/portable-pypy it works for me , in every linuxes.
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 1:42 AM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
When you use the ppa, where will nosetests be located?
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pypy/ppa sudo apt-get update
On June 11, 2015 1:54:55 PM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
I have no idea how to use the PyPy PPA. (Not a Linux user here.)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Randall Leeds <randall.leeds@gmail.com
wrote:
The PyPy PPA works brilliantly on 15.04 for me.
From there I just make a virtualenv with:
$ virtualenv -P /usr/bin/pypy
(Can't remember if it's -P or -p)
Once activated, just running pip works fine for me.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015, 11:49 Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Against my better judgement, I tried following your advice :)
Got this error when running make:
[translation:ERROR] CompilationError: CompilationError(err=""" [translation:ERROR] /tmp/usession-release-2.6.0-0/platcheck_23.c:79:18: fatal error: zlib.h: No such file or directory [translation:ERROR] #include <zlib.h> [translation:ERROR] ^ [translation:ERROR] compilation terminated. [translation:ERROR] """) [translation] start debugger... > /home/ubuntu/Desktop/pypy-2.6.0-src/rpython/rtyper/tool/rffi_platform.py(834)configure_external_library() -> raise last_error (Pdb+)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Honestly, these is just general Linux issues. Like I said, not even >> Linus Torvalds makes binaries of his dive logger for Linux. It a pain in >> the everything. >> > > *these are* (damn, I hate autocorrect...) > > >> >> I usually have the *worst* luck building stuff, but PyPy was >> actually very easy. I ran `make` and it "just worked". You don't need to >> know C. Even if you did, trying to edit the C code generated by RPython >> would be suicide. >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >> >>> I suck at building. I don't know C. There are likely to be errors >>> that I wouldn't know how to deal with. I'm not interested in wasting >>> another hour trying to deal with those. >>> >>> I'm on Ubuntu 15.04. Thanks for the offer. >>> >>> Hopefully instead of investing so much development effort making >>> PyPy x8 times faster than CPython instead of x7 faster, there'll be more >>> effort to make PyPy easier to install. This also goes for Windows: Why >>> isn't there an installer? But yeah, it's an open-source project, so I'm >>> just ranting. >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Remember: I am *dead* serious about you rebuilding it. If you're >>>> on Ubuntu 14 LTS x64, I can email you the binaries I built that *work* for >>>> you to try. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Unfortunately it doesn't work for nosetests. I've sent a message >>>>> to python-ideas about this, maybe the -m flag should be changed to work on >>>>> scripts. >>>>> >>>>> I tried a few things, including pyenv, but it didn't work. I've >>>>> given up at this point. Thanks for your help. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dang, I forgot about that. Unfortunately, I don't think that >>>>>> works for some other Python packages. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On June 11, 2015 11:44:38 AM CDT, Romain Guillebert <romain.py@ >>>>>> gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> pypy -m pip works >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame apt-get's >>>>>>>> brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. THEY >>>>>>>> DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app binaries >>>>>>>> for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45 >>>>>>>> mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into the >>>>>>>> source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access them easily, I put >>>>>>>> something like this in my .bashr >>>>>>>> c: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do >>>>>>>> alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin >>>>>>>> done >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> # Laziness >>>>>>>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c" >>>>>>>> # it was either that or: >>>>>>>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pyp >>>>>>>> y-c" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at least on >>>>>>>>> windows). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to >>>>>>>>> launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do >>>>>>>>> I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in >>>>>>>>>> site-packages I believe (just like on cpython) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Things I don't care about so much right now: >>>>>>>>>>> - How fast PyPy runs. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Things I care a lot about right now: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * - >>>>>>>>>>> How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com <rymg19@gmail.com>> wrote: Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow. On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com <ram@rachum.com>> wrote: When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py <http://get-pip.py> , how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy?------------------------------ pypy-dev mai >>>>>>>>>>> ling >>>>>>>>>>> list pypy-dev@python.org <pypy-dev@python.org> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev> -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.------------------------------ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org <pypy-dev@python.org> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev>* >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> pypy-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my >>>>>> brevity. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Ryan >>>> [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than >>>> your program. Something’s wrong. >>>> http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Ryan >> [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than >> your program. Something’s wrong. >> http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ >> >> > > > > -- > Ryan > [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your > program. Something’s wrong. > http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ > >
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I tried that now. It wouldn't run `get-pip.py`. Says "Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement pip (from versions: ) No matching distribution found for pip" On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Phyo Arkar <phyo.arkarlwin@gmail.com> wrote:
It is just Download , extract , Run, and have fun.
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 1:43 AM, Phyo Arkar <phyo.arkarlwin@gmail.com> wrote:
Have you tried portable pypy ? https://github.com/squeaky-pl/portable-pypy it works for me , in every linuxes.
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 1:42 AM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
When you use the ppa, where will nosetests be located?
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pypy/ppa sudo apt-get update
On June 11, 2015 1:54:55 PM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
I have no idea how to use the PyPy PPA. (Not a Linux user here.)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Randall Leeds < randall.leeds@gmail.com> wrote:
The PyPy PPA works brilliantly on 15.04 for me.
From there I just make a virtualenv with:
$ virtualenv -P /usr/bin/pypy
(Can't remember if it's -P or -p)
Once activated, just running pip works fine for me.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015, 11:49 Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
> Against my better judgement, I tried following your advice :) > > Got this error when running make: > > [translation:ERROR] CompilationError: CompilationError(err=""" > [translation:ERROR] /tmp/usession-release-2.6.0-0/platcheck_23.c:79:18: > fatal error: zlib.h: No such file or directory > [translation:ERROR] #include <zlib.h> > [translation:ERROR] ^ > [translation:ERROR] compilation terminated. > [translation:ERROR] """) > [translation] start debugger... > > > /home/ubuntu/Desktop/pypy-2.6.0-src/rpython/rtyper/tool/rffi_platform.py(834)configure_external_library() > -> raise last_error > (Pdb+) > > > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Honestly, these is just general Linux issues. Like I said, not >>> even Linus Torvalds makes binaries of his dive logger for Linux. It a pain >>> in the everything. >>> >> >> *these are* (damn, I hate autocorrect...) >> >> >>> >>> I usually have the *worst* luck building stuff, but PyPy was >>> actually very easy. I ran `make` and it "just worked". You don't need to >>> know C. Even if you did, trying to edit the C code generated by RPython >>> would be suicide. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I suck at building. I don't know C. There are likely to be errors >>>> that I wouldn't know how to deal with. I'm not interested in wasting >>>> another hour trying to deal with those. >>>> >>>> I'm on Ubuntu 15.04. Thanks for the offer. >>>> >>>> Hopefully instead of investing so much development effort making >>>> PyPy x8 times faster than CPython instead of x7 faster, there'll be more >>>> effort to make PyPy easier to install. This also goes for Windows: Why >>>> isn't there an installer? But yeah, it's an open-source project, so I'm >>>> just ranting. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Remember: I am *dead* serious about you rebuilding it. If you're >>>>> on Ubuntu 14 LTS x64, I can email you the binaries I built that *work* for >>>>> you to try. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Unfortunately it doesn't work for nosetests. I've sent a >>>>>> message to python-ideas about this, maybe the -m flag should be changed to >>>>>> work on scripts. >>>>>> >>>>>> I tried a few things, including pyenv, but it didn't work. I've >>>>>> given up at this point. Thanks for your help. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Ryan Gonzalez < >>>>>> rymg19@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dang, I forgot about that. Unfortunately, I don't think that >>>>>>> works for some other Python packages. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On June 11, 2015 11:44:38 AM CDT, Romain Guillebert <romain.py >>>>>>> @gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> pypy -m pip works >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame apt-get's >>>>>>>>> brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. THEY >>>>>>>>> DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app binaries >>>>>>>>> for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45 >>>>>>>>> mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into the >>>>>>>>> source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access them easily, I put >>>>>>>>> something like this in my .bashr >>>>>>>>> c: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do >>>>>>>>> alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin >>>>>>>>> done >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> # Laziness >>>>>>>>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c" >>>>>>>>> # it was either that or: >>>>>>>>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pyp >>>>>>>>> y-c" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at least on >>>>>>>>>> windows). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to >>>>>>>>>> launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do >>>>>>>>>> I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in >>>>>>>>>>> site-packages I believe (just like on cpython) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Things I don't care about so much right now: >>>>>>>>>>>> - How fast PyPy runs. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Things I care a lot about right now: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> * - >>>>>>>>>>>> How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com <rymg19@gmail.com>> wrote: Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow. On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com <ram@rachum.com>> wrote: When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py <http://get-pip.py> , how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy?------------------------------ pypy-dev mai >>>>>>>>>>>> ling >>>>>>>>>>>> list pypy-dev@python.org <pypy-dev@python.org> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev> -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.------------------------------ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org <pypy-dev@python.org> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev>* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> pypy-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my >>>>>>> brevity. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Ryan >>>>> [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than >>>>> your program. Something’s wrong. >>>>> http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ryan >>> [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than >>> your program. Something’s wrong. >>> http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Ryan >> [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than >> your program. 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use easy_install On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 1:47 AM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
I tried that now. It wouldn't run `get-pip.py`. Says "Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement pip (from versions: ) No matching distribution found for pip"
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Phyo Arkar <phyo.arkarlwin@gmail.com> wrote:
It is just Download , extract , Run, and have fun.
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 1:43 AM, Phyo Arkar <phyo.arkarlwin@gmail.com> wrote:
Have you tried portable pypy ? https://github.com/squeaky-pl/portable-pypy it works for me , in every linuxes.
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 1:42 AM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
When you use the ppa, where will nosetests be located?
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pypy/ppa sudo apt-get update
On June 11, 2015 1:54:55 PM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
I have no idea how to use the PyPy PPA. (Not a Linux user here.)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Randall Leeds < randall.leeds@gmail.com> wrote:
> The PyPy PPA works brilliantly on 15.04 for me. > > From there I just make a virtualenv with: > > $ virtualenv -P /usr/bin/pypy > > (Can't remember if it's -P or -p) > > Once activated, just running pip works fine for me. > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015, 11:49 Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: > >> Against my better judgement, I tried following your advice :) >> >> Got this error when running make: >> >> [translation:ERROR] CompilationError: CompilationError(err=""" >> [translation:ERROR] /tmp/usession-release-2.6.0-0/platcheck_23.c:79:18: >> fatal error: zlib.h: No such file or directory >> [translation:ERROR] #include <zlib.h> >> [translation:ERROR] ^ >> [translation:ERROR] compilation terminated. >> [translation:ERROR] """) >> [translation] start debugger... >> > >> /home/ubuntu/Desktop/pypy-2.6.0-src/rpython/rtyper/tool/rffi_platform.py(834)configure_external_library() >> -> raise last_error >> (Pdb+) >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Honestly, these is just general Linux issues. Like I said, not >>>> even Linus Torvalds makes binaries of his dive logger for Linux. It a pain >>>> in the everything. >>>> >>> >>> *these are* (damn, I hate autocorrect...) >>> >>> >>>> >>>> I usually have the *worst* luck building stuff, but PyPy was >>>> actually very easy. I ran `make` and it "just worked". You don't need to >>>> know C. Even if you did, trying to edit the C code generated by RPython >>>> would be suicide. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I suck at building. I don't know C. There are likely to be >>>>> errors that I wouldn't know how to deal with. I'm not interested in wasting >>>>> another hour trying to deal with those. >>>>> >>>>> I'm on Ubuntu 15.04. Thanks for the offer. >>>>> >>>>> Hopefully instead of investing so much development effort making >>>>> PyPy x8 times faster than CPython instead of x7 faster, there'll be more >>>>> effort to make PyPy easier to install. This also goes for Windows: Why >>>>> isn't there an installer? But yeah, it's an open-source project, so I'm >>>>> just ranting. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Remember: I am *dead* serious about you rebuilding it. If >>>>>> you're on Ubuntu 14 LTS x64, I can email you the binaries I built that >>>>>> *work* for you to try. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Unfortunately it doesn't work for nosetests. I've sent a >>>>>>> message to python-ideas about this, maybe the -m flag should be changed to >>>>>>> work on scripts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I tried a few things, including pyenv, but it didn't work. >>>>>>> I've given up at this point. Thanks for your help. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Ryan Gonzalez < >>>>>>> rymg19@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dang, I forgot about that. Unfortunately, I don't think that >>>>>>>> works for some other Python packages. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On June 11, 2015 11:44:38 AM CDT, Romain Guillebert < >>>>>>>> romain.py@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> pypy -m pip works >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame apt-get's >>>>>>>>>> brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. THEY >>>>>>>>>> DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app binaries >>>>>>>>>> for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45 >>>>>>>>>> mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into the >>>>>>>>>> source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access them easily, I put >>>>>>>>>> something like this in my .bashr >>>>>>>>>> c: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do >>>>>>>>>> alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin >>>>>>>>>> done >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> # Laziness >>>>>>>>>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c" >>>>>>>>>> # it was either that or: >>>>>>>>>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pyp >>>>>>>>>> y-c" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at least on >>>>>>>>>>> windows). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to >>>>>>>>>>> launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do >>>>>>>>>>> I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in >>>>>>>>>>>> site-packages I believe (just like on cpython) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Things I don't care about so much right now: >>>>>>>>>>>>> - How fast PyPy runs. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Things I care a lot about right now: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * - >>>>>>>>>>>>> How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com <rymg19@gmail.com>> wrote: Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow. On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com <ram@rachum.com>> wrote: When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py <http://get-pip.py> , how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy?------------------------------ pypy-dev mai >>>>>>>>>>>>> ling >>>>>>>>>>>>> list pypy-dev@python.org <pypy-dev@python.org> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev> -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.------------------------------ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org <pypy-dev@python.org> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev>* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> pypy-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my >>>>>>>> brevity. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Ryan >>>>>> [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than >>>>>> your program. Something’s wrong. >>>>>> http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Ryan >>>> [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than >>>> your program. Something’s wrong. >>>> http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ryan >>> [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than >>> your program. Something’s wrong. >>> http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pypy-dev mailing list >> pypy-dev@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >> >
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Hi all, On 11 June 2015 at 21:17, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
I tried that now. It wouldn't run `get-pip.py`. Says "Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement pip (from versions: ) No matching distribution found for pip"
My own experience: any PyPy binary can be downloaded from pypy.org/download.html for Ubuntu 64-bit (either the portable or the non-portable one; the latter works on Ubuntu from 12-04 to 14-04, so maybe also on 15-04). You unpack the tar, and then you use the system-provided "virtualenv" that you probably already have (at least the one on Ubuntu 14-04 works fine), like this: virtualenv -p /path/to/bin/pypy venv-pypy Then the usual instructions on how to use virtualenv work; for example, after running . venv-pypy/bin/activate then "python" becomes PyPy, "pip" is the one from venv-pypy, and "pip install foo" installs packages inside this venv-pypy directory. A bientôt, Armin.
Ah, minor detail. You need to first run: sudo apt-get install libffi-dev pkg-config libz-dev libbz2-dev \ libsqlite3-dev libncurses-dev libexpat1-dev libssl-dev ;) On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Against my better judgement, I tried following your advice :)
Got this error when running make:
[translation:ERROR] CompilationError: CompilationError(err=""" [translation:ERROR] /tmp/usession-release-2.6.0-0/platcheck_23.c:79:18: fatal error: zlib.h: No such file or directory [translation:ERROR] #include <zlib.h> [translation:ERROR] ^ [translation:ERROR] compilation terminated. [translation:ERROR] """) [translation] start debugger...
/home/ubuntu/Desktop/pypy-2.6.0-src/rpython/rtyper/tool/rffi_platform.py(834)configure_external_library() -> raise last_error (Pdb+)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Honestly, these is just general Linux issues. Like I said, not even Linus Torvalds makes binaries of his dive logger for Linux. It a pain in the everything.
*these are* (damn, I hate autocorrect...)
I usually have the *worst* luck building stuff, but PyPy was actually very easy. I ran `make` and it "just worked". You don't need to know C. Even if you did, trying to edit the C code generated by RPython would be suicide.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
I suck at building. I don't know C. There are likely to be errors that I wouldn't know how to deal with. I'm not interested in wasting another hour trying to deal with those.
I'm on Ubuntu 15.04. Thanks for the offer.
Hopefully instead of investing so much development effort making PyPy x8 times faster than CPython instead of x7 faster, there'll be more effort to make PyPy easier to install. This also goes for Windows: Why isn't there an installer? But yeah, it's an open-source project, so I'm just ranting.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Remember: I am *dead* serious about you rebuilding it. If you're on Ubuntu 14 LTS x64, I can email you the binaries I built that *work* for you to try.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Unfortunately it doesn't work for nosetests. I've sent a message to python-ideas about this, maybe the -m flag should be changed to work on scripts.
I tried a few things, including pyenv, but it didn't work. I've given up at this point. Thanks for your help.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dang, I forgot about that. Unfortunately, I don't think that works > for some other Python packages. > > > On June 11, 2015 11:44:38 AM CDT, Romain Guillebert <romain.py@ > gmail.com> wrote: >> >> pypy -m pip works >> >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame apt-get's >>> brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. THEY >>> DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app binaries >>> for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45 >>> mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into the >>> source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access them easily, I put >>> something like this in my .bashrc: >>> >>> for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do >>> alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin >>> done >>> >>> # Laziness >>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c" >>> # it was either that or: >>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pyp >>> y-c" >>> >>> >>> >>> On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at least on >>>> windows). >>>> >>>> In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to >>>> launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do >>>> I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy? >>>> >>>> On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in >>>>> site-packages I believe (just like on cpython) >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Things I don't care about so much right now: >>>>>> - How fast PyPy runs. >>>>>> >>>>>> Things I care a lot about right now: >>>>>> - How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py >>>>>>>> , >>>>>>>> how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> pypy-dev mai >>>>>>>> ling >>>>>>>> list >>>>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> pypy-dev mailing list >>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> pypy-dev mailing list >>> pypy-dev@python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >> >> >> > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
Okay, I'll try it. (Once I add more resources to the VM so it could finish faster.) On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Ah, minor detail. You need to first run:
sudo apt-get install libffi-dev pkg-config libz-dev libbz2-dev \ libsqlite3-dev libncurses-dev libexpat1-dev libssl-dev
;)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Against my better judgement, I tried following your advice :)
Got this error when running make:
[translation:ERROR] CompilationError: CompilationError(err=""" [translation:ERROR] /tmp/usession-release-2.6.0-0/platcheck_23.c:79:18: fatal error: zlib.h: No such file or directory [translation:ERROR] #include <zlib.h> [translation:ERROR] ^ [translation:ERROR] compilation terminated. [translation:ERROR] """) [translation] start debugger...
/home/ubuntu/Desktop/pypy-2.6.0-src/rpython/rtyper/tool/rffi_platform.py(834)configure_external_library() -> raise last_error (Pdb+)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Honestly, these is just general Linux issues. Like I said, not even Linus Torvalds makes binaries of his dive logger for Linux. It a pain in the everything.
*these are* (damn, I hate autocorrect...)
I usually have the *worst* luck building stuff, but PyPy was actually very easy. I ran `make` and it "just worked". You don't need to know C. Even if you did, trying to edit the C code generated by RPython would be suicide.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
I suck at building. I don't know C. There are likely to be errors that I wouldn't know how to deal with. I'm not interested in wasting another hour trying to deal with those.
I'm on Ubuntu 15.04. Thanks for the offer.
Hopefully instead of investing so much development effort making PyPy x8 times faster than CPython instead of x7 faster, there'll be more effort to make PyPy easier to install. This also goes for Windows: Why isn't there an installer? But yeah, it's an open-source project, so I'm just ranting.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Remember: I am *dead* serious about you rebuilding it. If you're on Ubuntu 14 LTS x64, I can email you the binaries I built that *work* for you to try.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately it doesn't work for nosetests. I've sent a message to > python-ideas about this, maybe the -m flag should be changed to work on > scripts. > > I tried a few things, including pyenv, but it didn't work. I've > given up at this point. Thanks for your help. > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Dang, I forgot about that. Unfortunately, I don't think that works >> for some other Python packages. >> >> >> On June 11, 2015 11:44:38 AM CDT, Romain Guillebert <romain.py@ >> gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> pypy -m pip works >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame apt-get's >>>> brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. THEY >>>> DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app binaries >>>> for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45 >>>> mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into the >>>> source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access them easily, I put >>>> something like this in my .bashrc: >>>> >>>> for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do >>>> alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin >>>> done >>>> >>>> # Laziness >>>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c" >>>> # it was either that or: >>>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pyp >>>> y-c" >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at least on >>>>> windows). >>>>> >>>>> In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to >>>>> launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do >>>>> I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy? >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in >>>>>> site-packages I believe (just like on cpython) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Things I don't care about so much right now: >>>>>>> - How fast PyPy runs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Things I care a lot about right now: >>>>>>> - How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py >>>>>>>>> , >>>>>>>>> how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> pypy-dev mai >>>>>>>>> ling >>>>>>>>> list >>>>>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> pypy-dev mailing list >>>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> pypy-dev mailing list >>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> > >
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
Using `make` worked. Thank you! On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Okay, I'll try it. (Once I add more resources to the VM so it could finish faster.)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Ah, minor detail. You need to first run:
sudo apt-get install libffi-dev pkg-config libz-dev libbz2-dev \ libsqlite3-dev libncurses-dev libexpat1-dev libssl-dev
;)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Against my better judgement, I tried following your advice :)
Got this error when running make:
[translation:ERROR] CompilationError: CompilationError(err=""" [translation:ERROR] /tmp/usession-release-2.6.0-0/platcheck_23.c:79:18: fatal error: zlib.h: No such file or directory [translation:ERROR] #include <zlib.h> [translation:ERROR] ^ [translation:ERROR] compilation terminated. [translation:ERROR] """) [translation] start debugger...
/home/ubuntu/Desktop/pypy-2.6.0-src/rpython/rtyper/tool/rffi_platform.py(834)configure_external_library() -> raise last_error (Pdb+)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Honestly, these is just general Linux issues. Like I said, not even Linus Torvalds makes binaries of his dive logger for Linux. It a pain in the everything.
*these are* (damn, I hate autocorrect...)
I usually have the *worst* luck building stuff, but PyPy was actually very easy. I ran `make` and it "just worked". You don't need to know C. Even if you did, trying to edit the C code generated by RPython would be suicide.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
I suck at building. I don't know C. There are likely to be errors that I wouldn't know how to deal with. I'm not interested in wasting another hour trying to deal with those.
I'm on Ubuntu 15.04. Thanks for the offer.
Hopefully instead of investing so much development effort making PyPy x8 times faster than CPython instead of x7 faster, there'll be more effort to make PyPy easier to install. This also goes for Windows: Why isn't there an installer? But yeah, it's an open-source project, so I'm just ranting.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
> Remember: I am *dead* serious about you rebuilding it. If you're on > Ubuntu 14 LTS x64, I can email you the binaries I built that *work* for you > to try. > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: > >> Unfortunately it doesn't work for nosetests. I've sent a message to >> python-ideas about this, maybe the -m flag should be changed to work on >> scripts. >> >> I tried a few things, including pyenv, but it didn't work. I've >> given up at this point. Thanks for your help. >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Dang, I forgot about that. Unfortunately, I don't think that works >>> for some other Python packages. >>> >>> >>> On June 11, 2015 11:44:38 AM CDT, Romain Guillebert <romain.py@ >>> gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> pypy -m pip works >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame apt-get's >>>>> brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. THEY >>>>> DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app binaries >>>>> for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45 >>>>> mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into the >>>>> source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access them easily, I put >>>>> something like this in my .bashrc: >>>>> >>>>> for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do >>>>> alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin >>>>> done >>>>> >>>>> # Laziness >>>>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c" >>>>> # it was either that or: >>>>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pyp >>>>> y-c" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at least on >>>>>> windows). >>>>>> >>>>>> In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to >>>>>> launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do >>>>>> I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in >>>>>>> site-packages I believe (just like on cpython) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Things I don't care about so much right now: >>>>>>>> - How fast PyPy runs. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Things I care a lot about right now: >>>>>>>> - How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py >>>>>>>>>> , >>>>>>>>>> how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> pypy-dev mai >>>>>>>>>> ling >>>>>>>>>> list >>>>>>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> pypy-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> pypy-dev mailing list >>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my >>> brevity. >>> >> >> > > > -- > Ryan > [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your > program. Something’s wrong. > http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ > >
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
Told you so. :) On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Using `make` worked. Thank you!
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Okay, I'll try it. (Once I add more resources to the VM so it could finish faster.)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Ah, minor detail. You need to first run:
sudo apt-get install libffi-dev pkg-config libz-dev libbz2-dev \ libsqlite3-dev libncurses-dev libexpat1-dev libssl-dev
;)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Against my better judgement, I tried following your advice :)
Got this error when running make:
[translation:ERROR] CompilationError: CompilationError(err=""" [translation:ERROR] /tmp/usession-release-2.6.0-0/platcheck_23.c:79:18: fatal error: zlib.h: No such file or directory [translation:ERROR] #include <zlib.h> [translation:ERROR] ^ [translation:ERROR] compilation terminated. [translation:ERROR] """) [translation] start debugger...
/home/ubuntu/Desktop/pypy-2.6.0-src/rpython/rtyper/tool/rffi_platform.py(834)configure_external_library() -> raise last_error (Pdb+)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Honestly, these is just general Linux issues. Like I said, not even Linus Torvalds makes binaries of his dive logger for Linux. It a pain in the everything.
*these are* (damn, I hate autocorrect...)
I usually have the *worst* luck building stuff, but PyPy was actually very easy. I ran `make` and it "just worked". You don't need to know C. Even if you did, trying to edit the C code generated by RPython would be suicide.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
> I suck at building. I don't know C. There are likely to be errors > that I wouldn't know how to deal with. I'm not interested in wasting > another hour trying to deal with those. > > I'm on Ubuntu 15.04. Thanks for the offer. > > Hopefully instead of investing so much development effort making > PyPy x8 times faster than CPython instead of x7 faster, there'll be more > effort to make PyPy easier to install. This also goes for Windows: Why > isn't there an installer? But yeah, it's an open-source project, so I'm > just ranting. > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Remember: I am *dead* serious about you rebuilding it. If you're on >> Ubuntu 14 LTS x64, I can email you the binaries I built that *work* for you >> to try. >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Unfortunately it doesn't work for nosetests. I've sent a message >>> to python-ideas about this, maybe the -m flag should be changed to work on >>> scripts. >>> >>> I tried a few things, including pyenv, but it didn't work. I've >>> given up at this point. Thanks for your help. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dang, I forgot about that. Unfortunately, I don't think that >>>> works for some other Python packages. >>>> >>>> >>>> On June 11, 2015 11:44:38 AM CDT, Romain Guillebert <romain.py@ >>>> gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> pypy -m pip works >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame apt-get's >>>>>> brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. THEY >>>>>> DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app binaries >>>>>> for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45 >>>>>> mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into the >>>>>> source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access them easily, I put >>>>>> something like this in my .bashrc: >>>>>> >>>>>> for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do >>>>>> alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin >>>>>> done >>>>>> >>>>>> # Laziness >>>>>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c" >>>>>> # it was either that or: >>>>>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pyp >>>>>> y-c" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site packages (at least on >>>>>>> windows). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to >>>>>>> launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do >>>>>>> I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in >>>>>>>> site-packages I believe (just like on cpython) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Things I don't care about so much right now: >>>>>>>>> - How fast PyPy runs. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Things I care a lot about right now: >>>>>>>>> - How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py >>>>>>>>>>> , >>>>>>>>>>> how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> pypy-dev mai >>>>>>>>>>> ling >>>>>>>>>>> list >>>>>>>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> pypy-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> pypy-dev mailing list >>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my >>>> brevity. >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Ryan >> [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than >> your program. Something’s wrong. >> http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ >> >> > >
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
Wait a sec...how the hell did it finish that quickly?? Takes ages for me... On June 11, 2015 4:08:16 PM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Using `make` worked. Thank you!
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Okay, I'll try it. (Once I add more resources to the VM so it could finish faster.)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Ah, minor detail. You need to first run:
sudo apt-get install libffi-dev pkg-config libz-dev libbz2-dev \ libsqlite3-dev libncurses-dev libexpat1-dev libssl-dev
;)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Against my better judgement, I tried following your advice :)
Got this error when running make:
[translation:ERROR] CompilationError: CompilationError(err=""" [translation:ERROR] /tmp/usession-release-2.6.0-0/platcheck_23.c:79:18: fatal error: zlib.h: No such file or directory [translation:ERROR] #include <zlib.h> [translation:ERROR] ^ [translation:ERROR] compilation terminated. [translation:ERROR] """) [translation] start debugger...
-> raise last_error (Pdb+)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Honestly, these is just general Linux issues. Like I said, not even Linus Torvalds makes binaries of his dive logger for Linux. It a
the everything.
*these are* (damn, I hate autocorrect...)
I usually have the *worst* luck building stuff, but PyPy was
actually
very easy. I ran `make` and it "just worked". You don't need to know C. Even if you did, trying to edit the C code generated by RPython would be suicide.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
> I suck at building. I don't know C. There are likely to be errors > that I wouldn't know how to deal with. I'm not interested in wasting > another hour trying to deal with those. > > I'm on Ubuntu 15.04. Thanks for the offer. > > Hopefully instead of investing so much development effort making PyPy > x8 times faster than CPython instead of x7 faster, there'll be more effort > to make PyPy easier to install. This also goes for Windows: Why isn't there > an installer? But yeah, it's an open-source project, so I'm just ranting. > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Remember: I am *dead* serious about you rebuilding it. If you're on >> Ubuntu 14 LTS x64, I can email you the binaries I built that *work* for you >> to try. >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >> >>> Unfortunately it doesn't work for nosetests. I've sent a message to >>> python-ideas about this, maybe the -m flag should be changed to work on >>> scripts. >>> >>> I tried a few things, including pyenv, but it didn't work. I've >>> given up at this point. Thanks for your help. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dang, I forgot about that. Unfortunately, I don't think that works >>>> for some other Python packages. >>>> >>>> >>>> On June 11, 2015 11:44:38 AM CDT, Romain Guillebert <romain.py@ >>>> gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> pypy -m pip works >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I don't think you can out-of-the-box without some env tool. Blame apt-get's >>>>>> brilliant engineering. Since I'm generally allergic to binaries (I.e. THEY >>>>>> DON'T WORK! [which is probably why Torvalds never distributes app binaries >>>>>> for Linux]), I do things the simple way: build it myself. Takes about 45 >>>>>> mins. Always works. pip and pytest and such will all get installed into the >>>>>> source directory/bin, NOT /usr/local. In order to access
>>>>>> something like this in my .bashrc: >>>>>> >>>>>> for bin in $STUFF/pypy/bin; do >>>>>> alias pypy-${bin##*/}=$bin >>>>>> done >>>>>> >>>>>> # Laziness >>>>>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/pypy-c" >>>>>> # it was either that or: >>>>>> alias pypy="$STUFF/pypy/bin/pyp >>>>>> y-c" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On June 11, 2015 10:00:50 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As far as I know scripts don't get installed to site
/home/ubuntu/Desktop/pypy-2.6.0-src/rpython/rtyper/tool/rffi_platform.py(834)configure_external_library() pain in them easily, I put packages (at least on
>>>>>>> windows). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In other words: say I installed pypy on Ubuntu with nose in it. I want to >>>>>>> launch the nosetests script. (I also have one for the system Python.) How do >>>>>>> I launch the nosetests that belongs to PyPy? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 11, 2015 17:48, "Maciej Fijalkowski" <fijall@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> you can install pypy with apt-get. Stuff gets installed in >>>>>>>> site-packages I believe (just like on cpython) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Things I don't care about so much right now: >>>>>>>>> - How fast PyPy runs. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Things I care a lot about right now: >>>>>>>>> - How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py >>>>>>>>>>> , >>>>>>>>>>> how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> pypy-dev mai >>>>>>>>>>> ling >>>>>>>>>>> list >>>>>>>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> pypy-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> pypy-dev mailing list >>>>>> pypy-dev@python.org >>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my >>>> brevity. >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Ryan >> [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your >> program. Something’s wrong. >> http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ >> >> > >
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
-- Ryan [ERROR]: Your autotools build scripts are 200 lines longer than your program. Something’s wrong. http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
-- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
I've had the best luck with Pyenv. -Mark
On Jun 11, 2015, at 07:46, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote:
Things I don't care about so much right now: - How fast PyPy runs.
Things I care a lot about right now: - How many hours of my life I need to spend to get PyPy to run.
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote: Note: The PyPy bundled with Ubuntu 12 LTS is insanely slow.
On June 11, 2015 9:27:12 AM CDT, Ram Rachum <ram@rachum.com> wrote: When I install Pypy on Ubuntu using apt-get, and then run get-pip.py , how do I access the pip that belongs to PyPy?
pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
-- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
_______________________________________________ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
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