pypy services hosting / action needed!
Hi folks, for the last several years i cared for hosting these pypy services: - pypy.org (static generated html) - bugs.pypy.org (roundup instance, postfix server) - speed.python.org (django app) These services are living on two rented servers which cost me per-month and i am finally getting rid of them in January 2013. IIRC Maciej and others had various ideas (last year) on where the pypy services could better live. Any progress on this? ASFAIK the PSF is willing to offer a VM that we could use, at least for pypy.org and bugs.pypy.org. However, i haven't yet heart back from Noah Kantrowitz. I contacted him twice in recent weeks. If somebody has other contacts to try, go ahead and maybe CC me to avoid chaos. Note that i actually don't want to drive these efforts but offer my help in helping to migrate. I'd be happy if the currently active pypy devs determine a plan of action and drive it. best, holger
What kind of traffic are you seeing? perhaps we could offer some free hosting... Currently Python/WSGI only, but we should have support for static sites coming soon. -- Harry Percival Developer harry@pythonanywhere.com PythonAnywhere - a fully browser-based Python development and hosting environment <http://www.pythonanywhere.com/> PythonAnywhere LLP 17a Clerkenwell Road, London EC1M 5RD, UK VAT No.: GB 893 5643 79 Registered in England and Wales as company number OC378414. Registered address: 28 Ely Place, 3rd Floor, London EC1N 6TD, UK -----Original Message----- From: holger krekel Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 3:23 PM To: pypy-dev@python.org Subject: [pypy-dev] pypy services hosting / action needed! Hi folks, for the last several years i cared for hosting these pypy services: - pypy.org (static generated html) - bugs.pypy.org (roundup instance, postfix server) - speed.python.org (django app) These services are living on two rented servers which cost me per-month and i am finally getting rid of them in January 2013. IIRC Maciej and others had various ideas (last year) on where the pypy services could better live. Any progress on this? ASFAIK the PSF is willing to offer a VM that we could use, at least for pypy.org and bugs.pypy.org. However, i haven't yet heart back from Noah Kantrowitz. I contacted him twice in recent weeks. If somebody has other contacts to try, go ahead and maybe CC me to avoid chaos. Note that i actually don't want to drive these efforts but offer my help in helping to migrate. I'd be happy if the currently active pypy devs determine a plan of action and drive it. best, holger _______________________________________________ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 07:57 -0800, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote:
Two things: - as said i'd like to act based on a joint decision from the group. I can try to attend an IRC meeting to answer questions about the status quo. - after that and if the group wants it this way, could you start with migrating speed.pypy.org which is the heaviest service and create a speed2.pypy.org (just mail me privately the target IP address)? best, holger
Hi, On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Maciej Fijalkowski <fijall@gmail.com> wrote:
So let's wait for a group decision.
Right now, we have extra servers sitting around not doing much. I'm for moving all three services there. Fijal and me have access, and I'm sure anyone else that needs it would have access too. A bientôt, Armin.
I have a slight preference for the PSF servers if it's possible, I'll get in touch with Noah and see what I can do to help move this along. Alex On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Antonio Cuni <anto.cuni@gmail.com> wrote:
-- "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." -- Evelyn Beatrice Hall (summarizing Voltaire) "The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero
Hi again, any progress on internal discussions regarding the hosting questions? Note that speed.pypy.org is the most important from the list as it is the most expensive, sitting on an otherwise mostly unused machine. best, holger On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 15:23 +0000, holger krekel wrote:
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 15:23 +0200, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote:
That's a question whose answer should best be discussed and decided by the pypy dev group if i may repeat myself. Probably hosting is not the only issue that is worth discussing. FYI I just talked to the provider of the machine hosting speed.pypy.org. the next switch off date is the 6th of January 2013 (including) and i need to confirm now. pypy.org/bugs.pypy.org are living independently and there is less hurry. best, holger
Hi all, as to migrating speed.pypy.org, how is it related to speed.python.org? just stumbled over a thread discussing the latter here: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/speed/2012-October/000224.html There is even an (empty) instance running setup by Miquel Torres (the author of codespeed, the software behind speed.pypy.org) at: http://speed.python.org:8080/ Maybe it's possible to use this or setup a sister "speed.pypy.org" instance on the same machine? best, holger On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 18:11 +0200, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote:
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 4:56 PM, holger krekel <holger@merlinux.eu> wrote:
We've been using it a bit for STM benchmarking and other stuff. For a few months there was a problem of very little disk space that could not be regained (this got solved by now), but it made it disappear from our "things we normally do". For what is worth also being hosted in the states makes it unpleasant to do manual benchmarking, so we use tannit more.
What kind of traffic are you seeing? perhaps we could offer some free hosting... Currently Python/WSGI only, but we should have support for static sites coming soon. -- Harry Percival Developer harry@pythonanywhere.com PythonAnywhere - a fully browser-based Python development and hosting environment <http://www.pythonanywhere.com/> PythonAnywhere LLP 17a Clerkenwell Road, London EC1M 5RD, UK VAT No.: GB 893 5643 79 Registered in England and Wales as company number OC378414. Registered address: 28 Ely Place, 3rd Floor, London EC1N 6TD, UK -----Original Message----- From: holger krekel Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 3:23 PM To: pypy-dev@python.org Subject: [pypy-dev] pypy services hosting / action needed! Hi folks, for the last several years i cared for hosting these pypy services: - pypy.org (static generated html) - bugs.pypy.org (roundup instance, postfix server) - speed.python.org (django app) These services are living on two rented servers which cost me per-month and i am finally getting rid of them in January 2013. IIRC Maciej and others had various ideas (last year) on where the pypy services could better live. Any progress on this? ASFAIK the PSF is willing to offer a VM that we could use, at least for pypy.org and bugs.pypy.org. However, i haven't yet heart back from Noah Kantrowitz. I contacted him twice in recent weeks. If somebody has other contacts to try, go ahead and maybe CC me to avoid chaos. Note that i actually don't want to drive these efforts but offer my help in helping to migrate. I'd be happy if the currently active pypy devs determine a plan of action and drive it. best, holger _______________________________________________ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 07:57 -0800, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote:
Two things: - as said i'd like to act based on a joint decision from the group. I can try to attend an IRC meeting to answer questions about the status quo. - after that and if the group wants it this way, could you start with migrating speed.pypy.org which is the heaviest service and create a speed2.pypy.org (just mail me privately the target IP address)? best, holger
Hi, On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Maciej Fijalkowski <fijall@gmail.com> wrote:
So let's wait for a group decision.
Right now, we have extra servers sitting around not doing much. I'm for moving all three services there. Fijal and me have access, and I'm sure anyone else that needs it would have access too. A bientôt, Armin.
I have a slight preference for the PSF servers if it's possible, I'll get in touch with Noah and see what I can do to help move this along. Alex On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Antonio Cuni <anto.cuni@gmail.com> wrote:
-- "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." -- Evelyn Beatrice Hall (summarizing Voltaire) "The people's good is the highest law." -- Cicero
Hi again, any progress on internal discussions regarding the hosting questions? Note that speed.pypy.org is the most important from the list as it is the most expensive, sitting on an otherwise mostly unused machine. best, holger On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 15:23 +0000, holger krekel wrote:
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 15:23 +0200, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote:
That's a question whose answer should best be discussed and decided by the pypy dev group if i may repeat myself. Probably hosting is not the only issue that is worth discussing. FYI I just talked to the provider of the machine hosting speed.pypy.org. the next switch off date is the 6th of January 2013 (including) and i need to confirm now. pypy.org/bugs.pypy.org are living independently and there is less hurry. best, holger
Hi all, as to migrating speed.pypy.org, how is it related to speed.python.org? just stumbled over a thread discussing the latter here: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/speed/2012-October/000224.html There is even an (empty) instance running setup by Miquel Torres (the author of codespeed, the software behind speed.pypy.org) at: http://speed.python.org:8080/ Maybe it's possible to use this or setup a sister "speed.pypy.org" instance on the same machine? best, holger On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 18:11 +0200, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote:
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 4:56 PM, holger krekel <holger@merlinux.eu> wrote:
We've been using it a bit for STM benchmarking and other stuff. For a few months there was a problem of very little disk space that could not be regained (this got solved by now), but it made it disappear from our "things we normally do". For what is worth also being hosted in the states makes it unpleasant to do manual benchmarking, so we use tannit more.
participants (8)
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Alex Gaynor -
Antonio Cuni -
Armin Rigo -
Carl Friedrich Bolz -
Harry Percival -
holger krekel -
Maciej Fijalkowski -
Miquel Torres