Last week Paul and I participated to the Calibre conference in Den Haag, Netherlands. Paul was invited to make the keynote speech. Some high-ranking EU commissioners were presents. They were very interested in open source and knew all the details about the Pypy project. Congratulations to the Pypy team for your project, your excellent lobby and for having open the EU minds to pen source. Xavier Xavier Heymans ----- xavier@zope-europe.org Tél : 00 32 - (0)10 45 99 02 Mobile : 00 32 - (0)478 516 777 Zope Europe Association ASBL Avenue Maeterlinck 18, 1348 Louvain-La-Neuve, Belgium Registered in Belgium n° 865 879 012 - VAT/TVA : BE 0865 879 012
Hi Xavier, [Xavier Heymans Fri, Nov 26, 2004 at 01:59:14PM +0100]
Great to hear! This is another positive sign that eventually everything will work out nicely. Just this monday the signing process was initiated by the EU which - nevertheless - still does not imply a formalized commitment. But we are all getting ready to fully start the EU project on 1st of December. Btw, everyone please spread the word that we plan to do about 14 coding sprints in the next two years in various places, ranging from Pycon in Washington DC to South Korea but most of them taking place in Europe. European hackers will very likely have the possibility to "join" the EU project and receive travel + accomodation costs for these sprints refunded. We still need to sort out ways to make this as unbuerocratic as possible, though, and there are some questions and details that we must first resolve. And if anyone likes to help with organizing one of the sprints that would be very helpful as these events really form the foundation of the PyPy project and they are much more fun and easier to do if there are locals to interact with ... cheers and greetings, holger
Hi Holger, At the conference the Pypy project was presented as approved. It was listed within the EU projects the day before. I think you are among the first open source projects approved. So I guess you have a 99% change to get it trough. The Eu commissioner explained that it had been difficult to support it because most people do not understand how open source is organized. I would be interested to receive information about your project because the same work has to be done with Zope, Plone, ... Who should I contact? Crossing fingers until December 1 and good luck, Xavier
Hi Xavier, [Xavier Heymans Fri, Nov 26, 2004 at 06:01:08PM +0100]
Indeed, both sides have to learn i presume.
I would be interested to receive information about your project because the same work has to be done with Zope, Plone, ... Who should I contact?
As we two are scheduled to meet sometime in December we can have a beer over it :-) Also I am going to give a talk about EU/PyPy/open source funding issues at the chaos communication conference (CCC) in Berlin end of this year. Other than that I suppose it all depends a bit on the nature of your questions who you should best talk to. cheers, holger
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 16:09:24 +0100, holger krekel <hpk@trillke.net> wrote:
Holger, I'll happily volunteer to organize a sprint in the Seattle, Washington, USA area if you all ever feel like heading out this way. The Seattle Python Interest Group has had two fun, fairly small sprints this year and we're planning on doing 2-4 next year as well. We've been picking different projects to learn/work on each time, so far. Anyway, I know it's really far from you all, but if you're so inclined, I'll be happy to help coordinate things on this end, and we can likely pull a few more volunteers together from SEAPIG as well. Oh, and there is some wonderful food in Seattle. ;) Take care, -Brian
Hi Brian, [Brian Dorsey Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 09:14:23PM -0800]
Sounds great to me!
And this is a very nice approach to learning and getting to know fellow hackers i suppose.
What is a good time e.g. weatherwise to come to Seattle? Btw, it seems that in January we are going to attempt some longer term planning regarding sprints ... cheers & thanks, holger P.S.: side note: one thing i really dislike about coming to the states is this fingerprint/iris scan thingie and i know i am not alone with this. OTOH, the german government is even planning to introduce similar requirements in our passports, anyway. So i presume it gets more difficult everywhere to escape more or less total government surveillance possibilities ... only that germany should know better.
Hi Xavier, [Xavier Heymans Fri, Nov 26, 2004 at 01:59:14PM +0100]
Great to hear! This is another positive sign that eventually everything will work out nicely. Just this monday the signing process was initiated by the EU which - nevertheless - still does not imply a formalized commitment. But we are all getting ready to fully start the EU project on 1st of December. Btw, everyone please spread the word that we plan to do about 14 coding sprints in the next two years in various places, ranging from Pycon in Washington DC to South Korea but most of them taking place in Europe. European hackers will very likely have the possibility to "join" the EU project and receive travel + accomodation costs for these sprints refunded. We still need to sort out ways to make this as unbuerocratic as possible, though, and there are some questions and details that we must first resolve. And if anyone likes to help with organizing one of the sprints that would be very helpful as these events really form the foundation of the PyPy project and they are much more fun and easier to do if there are locals to interact with ... cheers and greetings, holger
Hi Holger, At the conference the Pypy project was presented as approved. It was listed within the EU projects the day before. I think you are among the first open source projects approved. So I guess you have a 99% change to get it trough. The Eu commissioner explained that it had been difficult to support it because most people do not understand how open source is organized. I would be interested to receive information about your project because the same work has to be done with Zope, Plone, ... Who should I contact? Crossing fingers until December 1 and good luck, Xavier
Hi Xavier, [Xavier Heymans Fri, Nov 26, 2004 at 06:01:08PM +0100]
Indeed, both sides have to learn i presume.
I would be interested to receive information about your project because the same work has to be done with Zope, Plone, ... Who should I contact?
As we two are scheduled to meet sometime in December we can have a beer over it :-) Also I am going to give a talk about EU/PyPy/open source funding issues at the chaos communication conference (CCC) in Berlin end of this year. Other than that I suppose it all depends a bit on the nature of your questions who you should best talk to. cheers, holger
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 16:09:24 +0100, holger krekel <hpk@trillke.net> wrote:
Holger, I'll happily volunteer to organize a sprint in the Seattle, Washington, USA area if you all ever feel like heading out this way. The Seattle Python Interest Group has had two fun, fairly small sprints this year and we're planning on doing 2-4 next year as well. We've been picking different projects to learn/work on each time, so far. Anyway, I know it's really far from you all, but if you're so inclined, I'll be happy to help coordinate things on this end, and we can likely pull a few more volunteers together from SEAPIG as well. Oh, and there is some wonderful food in Seattle. ;) Take care, -Brian
Hi Brian, [Brian Dorsey Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 09:14:23PM -0800]
Sounds great to me!
And this is a very nice approach to learning and getting to know fellow hackers i suppose.
What is a good time e.g. weatherwise to come to Seattle? Btw, it seems that in January we are going to attempt some longer term planning regarding sprints ... cheers & thanks, holger P.S.: side note: one thing i really dislike about coming to the states is this fingerprint/iris scan thingie and i know i am not alone with this. OTOH, the german government is even planning to introduce similar requirements in our passports, anyway. So i presume it gets more difficult everywhere to escape more or less total government surveillance possibilities ... only that germany should know better.
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Brian Dorsey -
Holger Krekel -
hpk＠trillke.net
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Xavier Heymans