Hi Laura, hi everyone interested in PyPy/JVM and oo backends, as it happens, Carl Friedrich, Maciej and me discussed about it this morning :) We know that Anto is interested in the Da-Vinci JVM challenge. So I sent a note to Anto and Niko asking about their availability - they are in vacation right now. A possible idea to go on might be this: a) interested people get together to work out technical PyPy/Da-Vinci related promises given a project span of 6 months (18th March till 4th August 2008). Deadline for proposals is 2nd March. We can send drafts earlier to Sun's mailing list. See already existing proposals here: http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/challenge-discuss/2008-February/threa... Note: Sun grants money at the end of the project (~August 2008), depending on project outcome and ranking/comparison with other projects. b) we could plan for 2-3 PyPy sprints with a major subtopic of implementing the proposal's promises. let's aim at travel+subsistence reimbursment for proposal active people. c) developers working on proposal topics could note down their hours and we use this a indication for money distribution in case of success. (Sun ranks the implemented projects at the end of the project and money is distributed according to it) I can offer to help with writing a proposal and also with communication and organisation of administrative and legal issues, probably through "merlinux", a company driven by long time PyPy and py.test people, see http://merlinux.de . However, IMO the main current issue is to come up with possible goals and technical promises. Any comments and ideas about possible PyPy/JVM Da-Vinci technical goals? Otherwise i guess we may need to wait for Anto and Niko getting back. best & cheers, holger On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 19:07 +0100, Laura Creighton wrote:

When Sun announced this, I sent mail to John Rose at Sun, to see if work on the Da Vinci Machine http://openjdk.java.net/projects/mlvm/ for Python and PyPy support would be acceptable.

The answer is favourable.

I wonder, who would be interested in making a team to work on the challenge? And what would you think would make a good proposal?

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