Recently it seems that when a PR linked to a bpo issue is merged, no note
of this event is made in the bpo issue. Look at
https://bugs.python.org/issue43933 for example. There are notes for the
first two merged PRs (25717 and 25719), at
https://bugs.python.org/issue43933#msg392343 and the next message. But I
cannot find a similar note for the third PR, 26054, which is also merged.
I recall seeing this for other recent issues as well. Did some piece of
automation recently break? (Could it have to do with the master->main move?)
Senthil Kumaran wrote:
> Hello Core Dev,
> I find a need for a core-dev chat service, wherein I could engage in
> some quick effervescent conversations.
> Does anyone else feel the need? Should we explore any? My thoughts and
> options are
> If you think that chatting is not a good idea, and a mailing list, and
> discourse(discuss.python.org) are the best option, please share your
> thoughts as well.
This was my original email. Based on the discussion here it looks like
an informal chat medium will be desirable to many. Some don't see a
To bring a closure to this topic, I plan to create a poll in
discuss.python.org to bring get votes on the decision.
So, the first decision will be.
Q: Do we need a core-dev only chat? An informal, private mechanism to
hang around and chat.
A) No. Let's not do anything new. The status quo we have seems fine.
B) Yes, let's experiment with Discord / Slack / Teams / Gitter / IRC.
If B, is your answer choice, and if we decide to experiment with a new
solution, what could it be? (1-Many choices)
A) Let's try with Discord for core-dev
B) Let's try with Gitter for core-dev
C) Let's try with private IRC group other than #python-dev
D) Let's try with Slack for core-dev
E) Let's try with Teams for core-dev
F) I don't have a strong preference. I will use whatever core-dev community
uses as long as I can use it on my platform or web.
My aim is not disrupt existing systems that are used like #python-dev in
IRC. So, it will continue to be chat mechanism open to public.
There will privacy focus with this solution, details on where to host to
I hope, I have represented the initial choices well. If not, please let
If we end up with coming to a consensus, I will make a formal proposal
to the steering council to make a pronuncement on this topic.
Hello Core Dev,
I find a need for a core-dev chat service, wherein I could engage in
some quick effervescent conversations.
It is like a team chat, that is popular with remote work these days.
We even seem to have used Zoom Chat yesterday!
* I know #python-dev in IRC exists, but it is mostly a channel for
bots to send notifications, and there are plenty. I am not certain if
any core dev is active there. There was a time when this was active.
* We tried python discord last year, and were bit overwhelmed with the
number of channels and inability to customize
* There seems to be Slack called pyslackers too. I am yet to try it.
To have a proper team-chat, we need a service (a) as well as (b) team
Does anyone else feel the need? Should we explore any? My thoughts and
a) Resurrect #python-dev - changing notifications to different group.
b) Request for core-dev in pyslackers Slack
c) Request for core-dev in Discord.
Any other ideas are welcome.
If you think that chatting is not a good idea, and a mailing list, and
discourse(discuss.python.org) are the best option, please share your
thoughts as well.
If we feel a chat service will be a good idea for core-dev to
hangaround, then we can go to stage 2 of choosing the service by votes
in discourse (discuss.python.org).
Through a collaboration, the PSF and SC scoped the role for a
Developer-in-Residence. We are now accepting resumes -- see below for
I am super happy to finally set this in motion! If you have any questions,
don't hesitate to reach out. Ee and I are on apply@ so feel free to send
questions there as well. A blog will be posted later today informing the
The Python Steering Council and the Python Software Foundation are looking
to hire a Developer-in-Residence!
CPython, the reference implementation of Python, is developed and primarily
maintained by volunteers.
Inspired by the Django Fellowship Program's success (
https://www.djangoproject.com/fundraising/), the PSF has strategically
planned to support CPython in a similar way beginning this year. Thanks to
the support from sponsors such as Google, this effort is moving forward.
The Developer-in-Residence will work full-time for one year to assist
CPython maintainers and the Steering Council. Areas of responsibility will
include analytical research to understand the project's volunteer hours and
funding, investigation of project priorities and their tasks going forward,
and begin working on those priorities. We are looking to hire an existing
core developer because of the type of work involved and interaction with
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determine any extension beyond the first year.
This Developer-in-Residence will continually coordinate with PSF staff and
the Steering Council on the following tasks (note: this is not an
exhaustive list of all tasks, but an overview of desired outcomes):
Create metrics based on:
Surveying maintainers and community to capture:
a directory showing who maintains what standard library module
interest in maintaining standard library modules
which standard library modules are most important to users
Combine usage and surveyed metrics to determine which standard library
modules need help and what the maintainer cost is for standard library
Determine additional intersections of data that could be useful
Address Pull Request and Issue backlogs based on the developed metrics
and other metrics created by the Steering Council
Create a long-term plan for addressing the backlog
Review personally pull requests & triage issues
Help coordinate core developers/maintainers of specific modules to
review pull requests and triage issues
Help maintaining, improving and stabilizing the CPython test suite,
including the continuous integration infrastructure and buildbot fleet.
Attend Steering Council meetings quarterly and have regular
communications with the PSF staff
Organize virtual sprints (i.e., at PyCon US) to collaborate with other
Python core developers to grow the community of Python core developers and
simultaneously close a large number of existing issues and pull requests
Provide transparency by proposing and fulfilling a public record as
agreed to by the Steering Council and PSF Staff
Publish two blogs on pyfound.blogspot.com throughout the year informing
the community on progress (halfway through and at the end of the residency)
Strong project management skills
Must be very organized and detail-oriented
Experience working with CPython volunteers
Excellent written and verbal communication
Experience working with software development teams remotely
Ability to balance demand and prioritize
An active maintainer of CPython is preferred.
Interested in this position?
If you are interested, please send an email to apply(a)python.org with your
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Employment/vendor arrangement will depend on whether the person resides in
or outside of the US.
Now that we are in the beta period for 3.10 is very important that we make
sure that all
improvements, new APIs and deprecations are reflected in the 3.10 what's
If you have worked on:
* Make a PEP that affects Python 3.10.
* A new feature/class/function/argument/option...
* Deprecating something.
* Remove something.
* Improve something important.
Please, make sure is reflected on the What's new document for Python 3.10.
Users normally don't
read the changelog directly and learn about what's available from the
What's New document so
you *absolutely* want your work to be reflected there. *Small* tutorials
and small code samples
and descriptions are a fantastic thing to add as well.
Specially for deprecations and removals, this is our public window to the
world so that learn what's
coming or how to port code to Python 3.10.
Thanks for helping to make Python3.10 a great release.
Regards from sunny London,
Pablo Galindo Salgado
In these last few months, I have been in the process of healing from some
pretty heavy past trauma. And now that I am on the road to recovery, I want
to share my journey with the Python community in hopes that it may reach
those that are struggling with their own mental health battles, as many of
us are during these dark and difficult times.
Trigger warning that it includes a decent amount of highly personal
content, so only check it out if you are okay with that:
To anyone that would limit my employment opportunities as a result of
having had these struggles, *that's perfectly okay*. I kept the post in the
private section because I was originally in fear of discriminate. However,
I have reached an important conclusion: *I would not want to work for your
company if you discriminate against people who have overcome past struggles*
--Kyle R. Stanley, Python Core Developer (what is a core dev?
*Pronouns: they/them **(why is my pronoun here?*