On 01/01/2013 11:13 PM, Ezio Melotti wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Brian Curtin <brian@python.org> wrote:
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Ezio Melotti <ezio.melotti@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Georg Brandl <g.brandl@gmx.net> wrote:
On 01/01/2013 05:54 PM, Ezio Melotti wrote:
I say Ezio lets him know that this is the plan since he talked to him recently and is in the no-ban-yet camp.
Yesterday I talked to him, informed him about the probation and showed him this message. I hope this is official enough.
So, what was the reaction? That is the important thing to know...
He acknowledged the fact, but I think he had already understood the issue from our previous conversation.
...and?
Does he care about what was said? Is he going to do anything about his actions?
He does, and he is already trying to improve. We already discussed about the issue and how to solve it in our previous conversation (see http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-committers/2012-December/002307.html), so informing him about the probation only served to let him know the specific punishment(s) he might face.
Good, sounds like we did all we can now.
The fact that this discussion sidetracked into contributor agreements is not a good sign to me. He should have just said those things himself to the PSF's legal counsel, not in response to an email about his behavior...
I'm doing this via chat (I think it's better/more effective than emails), so sidetracking is not so unexpected (we even ended up discussing things that are completely unrelated after we clarified the important points). The discussion about the CLA started because he said that some of the "accusations" in the thread are not true -- in particular that "He flat-out refuses to sign any contributor agreement". I asked him why he hasn't signed it and if there was any problem with the contributor agreement, and so he replied.
I still don't understand the CA issue: either he sent one some months back, and it got lost: then he can re-submit it. Or he thinks there is something wrong with it and it shouldn't be signed: then why did he do so in the first place (and frankly, why did nobody else (among them big corporations) find a cause for concern)?
cheers, Georg