Maybe there should be a published list of moderators (not a mailing list, just a list of people to mail!) where you can send such reports. If a moderator is being rude it's probably time to escalate to the PSF.
Thanks for pushing for a definite process on this issue!
On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Mariatta Wijaya email@example.com wrote:
Thanks everyone for the input.
It is still unclear to me how one can report when someone is being rude on GitHub. In the mailing lists we can email the administrators. But what about on GitHub? Do I write to python-committers? What if it was a core developer who was being rude, where can a non core-dev contributor report such behavior?
On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 6:53 AM, Nick Coghlan firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
On 4 May 2017 at 06:10, Guido van Rossum email@example.com wrote:
Two ex-board members disagree. I have to side with Brian; the PSF board should have minimal say in how the developers develop.
Note, I'm fine with the board being the arbiter when someone disagrees
their ban though -- there's got to be a "higher authority" for appeals.
I don't agree that the board should be the decider on the initial ban.
I think initial temporary suspensions should definitely be handled without involving the Board (just as they are for any other PSF provided channel).
I also think there are two cases that can definitely only be handled at the board level:
- folks that feel they've been treated unfairly by the core
development team appealing to the Board for reconsideration
- the core development team recommending that a ban from our channels
(python-dev, python-ideas, core-workflow, bugs.python.org, GitHub python org) be extended to other PSF provided channels
I'd previously said that I thought conversion of temporary suspensions to permanent bans should also go to the Board, but I now think it makes more sense to handle that as:
- the Board gets notified if a temporary suspension is now considered
a permanent ban
- they only need to get further involved if the ban is appealed
P.S. Don't forget that the specific context here is *public* behaviour that is the domain of channel moderators, rather than confidentially reported Code of Conduct concerns. Handling of the latter will remain with the PSF Board or their appointed representatives, independently of how we handle moderation of the development channels.
-- Nick Coghlan | firstname.lastname@example.org | Brisbane, Australia