On Sat., 29 Sep. 2018, 11:19 am Barry Warsaw, <barry@python.org> wrote:
On Sep 28, 2018, at 17:45, Łukasz Langa <lukasz@langa.pl> wrote:

> Do you use NNTP? Like with IRC, you won't find the next generation of core developers on it. And no, there is no support for it in Discourse.
>
> We could probably figure something out with Gmane if there's interest.

Yes, I use NNTP to read many of the Python mailing lists.  Gmane, even in its current state, is fantastic.

I’m all for supporting the next generation of developers, but not necessarily at the expense of *decades* of established workflow for current developers.  Moving to Discourse breaks this and proliferates browser tab syndrome.  It’s an experiment worth conducting, but I do think it’s a bit cavalier to shut down python-committers without further discussion.

Especially on the eve of critical governance discussions that will heavily impact the future of python-dev.

This is exactly the kind of arbitrary decision making by an insufficiently representative group that led to us banning making any binding decisions at language summits: their in-person nature means that they're inherently exclusive environments that lead to requirements being overlooked and decisions being made without involving most of the people affected.

Regards,
Nick.