On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 01:54:23PM -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> 2. I can handle Discord just fine nowadays but *please* don't combine this with
> the Python Discord server.
This was expressed by other core-devs as well.
> 8. I would want a purely *social* chat that is *closed* to non-core-devs.
> Everybody who can read it should also be able to post, and feel free to do so.
> As soon as there's the possibility of spectators I clam up, or at least I am
> much more guarded about what I post, defeating the purpose. (There should be a
> CoC that includes "no posting elsewhere of what you see here ever".) We already
> have enough channels where technical discussions are archived for posterity. We
> should be careful not to have discussions that lead to decisions on such a chat
> channel, because that excludes others who either weren't there at the time (all
> chats are terrible when there's a lot of scrollback, almost by design) or who
> just choose not to participate.
This is a ver most important part here. Initially, I wasn't thinking what
would be social vs non-social with core-dev chat. But guidelines here, that
this is more a "team chat" - Just members of team hanging around,
feeling comfortable to chat was my thinking.
Requesting guidance on something or seeking opinions should be a part of
"social" thingy, but, I foresee that we will have to make sure critical
decisions don't happen in there.
We should treat this the same as hanging out together in person. Sometines some folks get together and "solve" some important problem or have a breakthrough new idea or whatever. And then they part with the commitment that one (or several) of them will write it up and post to python-dev (or whatever formal channel, maybe a bpo or GitHub issue or a GitHub PR) so others can provide feedback etc.
Given the social aspect of solution, I think, voting would best capture
the winner and folks whose vote's didn't win will perhaps fold over to
the winning choice.
Sure, I wouldn't be a sore loser.
That's the reason we had choices between IRC, Gitter, Zulip to Discord.
Wait, is there already a vote somewhere?