Hello,
I agree with Brian and Nick. While I don't bother much with Anatoly anymore (I ignore at least 95% of his postings), I think it is not nice to let newcomers deal with the cognitive overhead of reading and appreciating his ramblings.
That said he doesn't need to be banned from *all* of python.org. Each mailing-list can take individual action. And the justification needn't be verbose. A two-line public message saying "For the record, Anatoly Techtonik has been banned from this mailing-list after the request of numerous contributors" is enough.
Regards
Antoine.
Le mercredi 26 décembre 2012 à 08:18 -0600, Brian Curtin a écrit :
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Ezio Melotti <ezio.melotti@gmail.com> wrote:
That said, ISTM that the main problem is that the way he communicates is not really effective and that results in an "energy drain" for other people. This can be addressed on both the sides. The community should ignore the tone of the messages or even the messages themselves and most importantly avoid replies that convey the same negative feelings.
I've filtered his emails to the trash for almost two years now, but I'm not going to ignore that he's now discouraging my friends and colleagues from contribution. I already removed myself from the nosy list on a bunch of issues he created in the past, and the people who were willing to work with him are dropping off. I also will not ignore his tone about a GSoC contribution being useless.
People should be able to recognize when a discussion is not constructive anymore and leave it, rather than wasting time just to prove a point or to repeat themselves. (Note that this apply to everyone, and not to anatoly in particular). Regarding the effectiveness of the communications there's certainty room for improvement, but apparently the previous attempts to address the problem were unsuccessful. I'm willing to make an attempt myself, as I think I have a quite clear idea of the problem.
You're wasting your time if you think you will be the one to break through to him after several people have already talked to him. Apparently he even got on Skype with Guido about this. People would *pay* to have that chance. Anatoly got it for being a jerk and it changed nothing.
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