On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm not sure if it's because I'm reading the lists more, or if he's actually posting more, but I definitely seem to see him more frequently.

No, it's definitely picked up. He went dormant for a while and now he is back.
 
And almost none of it is positive contribution, it's almost entirely people wasting time trying to humor him. I'm honestly not sure I've ever seen a discussion with him add value to the community.

His core points are typically valid (which is why I assume so many people have tried to help him fix his attitude), but then his solutions are typically over-the-top and he demands things occur instead of suggesting. Basically he's just rude.
 

Karl Fogel's book, "Producing Open Source Software", has heavily influenced my thinking here (http://producingoss.com/en/difficult-people.html), but I think we ought to reconsider banning him from the mailing lists that we run.

Python-ideas has a CoC now for a reason. Might be time to enact one for python-dev and the bug tracker.
 

Alex


On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Antoine Pitrou <antoine@python.org> wrote:

Hello,

I'm a bit curious, but do people think Anatoly is now behaving more
constructively than before?

No.
 
He does seem to post *less*, otherwise...

After all, he's just sent another rant about the "community process" in
which the word CLA seems to appear multiple times:
https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2013-November/130632.html

He also flat-out admits that he is "disrespectful to policies". He views himself as being a rabble-rouser to make sure old ideas get revisited. I say there are nicer ways to make sure old decisions are revisited that don't require being disrespectful and rude.

-Brett



Regards

Antoine.


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