For permalink in zulip, the link from "Copy link to conversation" seems to be sufficient.
I've created a stream ( but it now has double ## 😅 and it seems I can't rename it to remove the extra "#"

I've been waiting for the "excitement" surrounding PEP 572 to cool down before I want to merge PEP 581 (

I was hoping to bypass python-ideas since we've discussed at Python Language Summit :)  but if really needed I can start a thread there.


On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 10:38 AM Guido van Rossum <> wrote:
I like the Zulip idea, though it'll be hard to get permalinks to past discussions.

Also, before going to python-dev it should probably be battle-tested in python-ideas (PEP 572 wasn't ready for python-dev when it was moved there, and I'm still recovering from the resulting brawl).

On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 10:31 AM, Ethan Furman <> wrote:
On 07/11/2018 09:25 AM, Mariatta Wijaya wrote:

Sorry to bring up this old topic.

I'm trying to decide how to handle discussions for PEP 581, and I'm open to try out new things :)
Are we all still content with posting to python-dev?
I was thinking in addition to a thread in python-dev, I want to allow discussions to take place in zulip, under a new
#pep581 stream.
Will that be ok?

I think this will be a good test of Zulip, as well as incentive for folks to join.


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