On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 at 14:04 M.-A. Lemburg <mal@egenix.com> wrote:

I don't think that spamming all MLs, Github accounts, etc.
with CoC notices will help anyone.

Which is not what I'm suggesting nor would I want to do unless it's a stated change in policy so people feel properly notified.

You may not be aware, but all PSF infrastructure is covered by
the PSF CoC already, and has been for quite a while:

     RESOLVED, that the Python Software Foundation shall manage and curate the Foundation's public
and member-accessible web properties to remove spam, serve the membership, and conform to the the
Python Community Code of Conduct.

Approved 9-0-0 by IRC vote, 3 January, 2014.

That's great, but how are people to know this if they don't read the minutes of the board? Is it considered too much if I link to the minutes in the devguide so people know about this (https://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/2014-01-06/#management-of-the-psfs-web-properties)?

All PSF members have acknowledged this and adding yet another
notice to each and every point of interaction will not make
things better.

I'm not worried about PSF members, it's all the new folk who are just "walking off the street" and are looking to contribute.

If there are issues, point people to the CoC. Otherwise, let's
not get all tangled up in CoC links everywhere :-)

Fair enough, but I would like at least one canonical location to link to that bit of the minutes so that it's somewhere a bit more public. Is a link in the devguide considered acceptable?


We can get the 16 ton weight out when needed...


and optionally even send the tiger.

Marc-Andre Lemburg

On 04.03.2016 22:31, Brett Cannon wrote:
> The discussion about the Code of Conduct has sputtered out, so I'm going to
> assume those who care to speak up have at this point. It seems to me that
> the general agreement is that putting python-dev and bugs.python.org under
> the CoC might not solve any real issues we currently have, but it won't
> hurt anything either (and both python-committers and python-ideas are
> already covered). And since the CoC might make some people feel more
> comfortable in participating, that means going ahead and flipping on the
> CoC where we reasonably can.
> So what I will do is try to convince the managers of python-dev to put it
> under the CoC and get the CoC mentioned in the footer of  bugs.python.org.
> I will update the devguide to say that the various mailing lists and issue
> tracker are under the CoC so people are aware, but I won't go as far as I
> was originally proposing about covering all public, Python-related
> interactions. Once we move to GitHub we will most likely have a
> CONTRIBUTING file that links to the devguide and that file will mention
> that interactions involving the repo are under the CoC (or some other
> wording that says pull requests fall under the Code of Conduct).
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 at 11:29 Brett Cannon <brett@python.org> wrote:
>> I noticed that the devguide didn't explicitly mention that core developers
>> were expected to follow the PSF CoC (
>> https://docs.python.org/devguide/coredev.html and
>> https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/, respectively). I have opened
>> http://bugs.python.org/issue26446 to make sure it gets documented.
>> Since this is technically a modification of the requirements of getting
>> commit privileges I wanted to mention it here before I (or anyone else)
>> made the change.
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