I’m still here, but I would like to be out of the debate and out of the decision loop. I’m also still President of the PSF. But this is not for the PSF to decide. You all are doing fine.

—Guido

On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 1:37 PM Brett Cannon <brett@python.org> wrote:


On Sun, Jul 15, 2018, 13:01 Thomas Wouters, <thomas@python.org> wrote:
On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 8:53 AM Yury Selivanov <yselivanov.ml@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 10:07 PM Brett Cannon <brett@python.org> wrote:
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>> Ideally Guido would accept the PEP but I'm not sure if he is willing to. If that is indeed the case then how should this be done so that the document is universally accepted by all committers?
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> In my ideal scenario, people write up PEPs proposing a governance model and Guido chooses one, making it PEP 2.


That would be indeed the ideal scenario, legitimizing the whole thing.

I don't know how to read these comments... Are you afraid Guido wouldn't accept the proposed arrangement, or are people really doubting that Guido is still involved in this decision? I've seen the latter idea expressed by non-core-developers, but to me, Guido's use of "try" (twice) and "we" in his original email makes it clear that he's still involved; he just doesn't want to (or can't) dictate what he'll be replaced by. If people feel like Guido's participation in this is in doubt, should we just ask him to confirm one way or the other? (You don't have to wait for an answer to that question, Guido :)


For me, Guido's participation just hasn't been agreed to by him yet 😉. I have viewed the retirement email as saying "you all have to decide how you want things to be as I'm not going to force something upon you" and not a mic drop of "I ain't participating". But Guido hasn't spoken up yet as I think he's still processing all of this. So I'm just hedging my phrasing in case he takes a pass.

-Brett


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