IIRC we always promoted core devs by popular vote, so I don't think this would be a problem. Do we have any candidates that are currently waiting for us deciding on a governance model?
If this new governance model will include core devs being able to vote on PEPs, then I will have different opinion on how I want to vote or promote any new core dev.
And maybe that's OK for a few months? I don't recall Guido ever
accepting PEPs promptly. :) Setting strict deadlines really seems like a last-resort option.
Please don't misunderstand my wanting to set up a deadlines and process as wanting to rush things. I'm open to extend the dates, and even wait another year if we need to. Or do folks want to come up with a completely different process than what I've proposed?
In the end, I just want to know whether we will come to decision before 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, .. ?
Mariatta
On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 4:06 PM Yury Selivanov <yselivanov.ml@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 6:44 PM Mariatta Wijaya <mariatta.wijaya@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you for the responses and concerns.
I do want to keep this discussion open and ongoing, and I still think
that we do need a set deadline on things.
I talked to a few core developers recently (at EuroPython and over messengers) and I had an impression that some of them don't like an idea of making a decision faster than everybody has a chance to say their word. Some of them are shy to publicly object to having strict deadlines, some probably haven't yet seen this thread, some don't have time to engage right now. You also see a few -1s in this very thread. All in all, I really don't understand why we need to hurry here.
Currently any undecided PEP is stalled, and no one can pronounce on them.
And maybe that's OK for a few months? I don't recall Guido ever accepting PEPs promptly. :) Setting strict deadlines really seems like a last-resort option.
And we probably won't/can't promote any new core devs until we have new governance.
IIRC we always promoted core devs by popular vote, so I don't think this would be a problem. Do we have any candidates that are currently waiting for us deciding on a governance model?
Yury