On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 8:22 PM, Tim Peters tim.peters@gmail.com wrote:
[Nathaniel Smith njs@pobox.com]
That's not really true -- life expectancy *at birth* was ~35 years, but mostly because so many people died as infants/children. If you survived long enough to get nominated for a judgeship, then by that point your life expectancy wasn't too different from what we're used to today: https://passionforthepast.blogspot.com/2011/08/average-life-expectancy-myth....
But that's just anecdotal, [...]
Yeah, it's an off-topic digression anyway so I was simplifying and didn't spend much time looking for the perfect link. Looking a bit it seems like in ~1790 a 20-year old white male in the US could expect to live another ~45 years, and today that's up to ~55 years, and then the numbers get closer together as the ages increase. Which is about what I had in mind for "not too different".
But I think there are a lot of differences between a 21st-century F/OSS project and an 18th-century federal government, so probably not the most relevant model in any case. And of course it's always tempting to start inventing neat rules and procedures, but IME those details are actually the least important part of project governance (compared to things like, having a healthy discussion culture, tools for building consensus, etc. -- by the time you're voting on something you've already failed). So debating the pros and cons of term limits seems a bit premature to me right now :-).
The subject "Transfer of power" is a pretty good clue that building tools (etc) isn't the primary topic of this thread ;-) We're looking to fill the void left by an Absolute Dictator for Life stepping down. It's important to get that part right too, because "by the time you're voting on something you're already failed" is a thing that will happen, and repeatedly. Guido has been the last, best resort in such cases.
Well, sure, we can try to come up with something to slot into the space Guido is leaving, while keeping everything else the same, that's one option. But I doubt it's the best one. Guido is, quite literally, irreplaceable.
The US Supreme Court is the closest thing to a dictatorial institution the US has (lifetime appointments, answerable to nobody, and against which there is no appeal), so it's a natural model to consider when replacing a dictator.
Yeah, I get why it comes to mind for USians here, but there are also, like... lots of actual open-source projects that have transitioned from a BDFL model to something else, and they're probably even more natural models ;-).
-n
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