On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 5:28 AM, R. David Murray <rdmurray@bitdance.com> wrote:
On 12/25/2012 5:56 PM, Łukasz Langa wrote:
I'm seriously considering writing all this as a PEP (most likely without any personal details). I hope this won't be useful in the future but it might help having this gathered as written policy, if only for transparency reasons.
This strike me as over-reaction.
I'm not at all sure that it is, but that "most likely" had better be replaced by "most certainly". Such a policy needs to rest on fundamental principles. "Bad cases make bad law", so one must be careful not to craft a policy to deal only with a specific egregious thing, but rather craft something that will serve well in the general cases. Specifically, any such policy, and any statement made if we take action on Anatoly, will have to address the inevitable calls that we are engaging in censorship. There are principled answers to that charge, but we must decide which of them we are following and why, and articulate that clearly and consistently.
+1. It might seem bureaucratic to some, but I think grounding actions in due process and documented policy is important. The Diversity Statement is a good example of this. (That statement has a different purpose though. It's more about something we want rather than how to handle something we don't want.):
http://www.python.org/community/diversity/
What is CoC by the way?
As an aside, it has occurred to me that the fundamental problem here is that we do not feel that Anatoly respects *us*. So it is no wonder that we are offended and do not respect him.
FWIW, I've found him to be more what I'd call spammy/annoying and lacking in some areas rather than disrespectful (opening many issues with vague descriptions, starting more than his share of threads on python-ideas, etc). So I've never felt offended. Granted, I'm relatively new to being involved and don't follow him closely. I quickly learned to pass over most of what he writes for lack of time. It's a source of amazement to me that what he writes sometimes leads to something productive.
--Chris